[Population Modeling] PopModWkGrpIMAG-news Digest, Vol 18, Issue 11

Mon Apr 25 06:38:28 PDT 2016

Robert !

Fantastic!  

All,  perhaps we are beginning to see signs of this group coming together as a community of PRACTITIONERS (not just practice) from diverse domains of application of modeling and simulation with a shared common interest in the future of computational modeling as philosophically perhaps, THE 3rd SCIENCE, picking up where Systemic Observation and  Formal ("wet lab") Experimentation have been unable to open new Windows.  

The explanations, much less understanding,  of  computational and insilco lab methods to their beneficiaries are far from what will be needed to gain the acceptance that practicing clinicians and applied or experimental scientists have for the classical experimental methods which they  have been taught as the "gold standard" that defines SCIENCE from elementary school through Post Doc training.  Consider that classical (taking care NOT to say "legacy", because it will always be important) experimental methods may have attracted them to their fields in the first place.  Further, many good scientists are not inclined toward advanced mathematics and avoid complex symbolic expressions which they associate with the word "computational" in any context.  The idea of high performance computational/computing environments is even more mysterious as is the notion of doing in silico "experiments" using sample sizes of 10K distinct unique individuals randomly selected entities from a "population" of a million synthetic, complex computationally generated entities just does not resonate where samples of 100 real entities are hard to find.

 The "PopMod" Working group, new as it is, may among other things choose to leverage its connection to the Multi Scale Modeling Symposium of the NIH IMAG to explore strategies for translation of both method and result of Population Modeling to non computational scientists and the public.

Jacob's simple paper of short examples last year seems to offer a good non threatening means of alerting others to the kinds of things to which computational population  models.  This year's larger  community response and Dr Smith?'s quick turn around of so many examples (without a single symbolic equation!) into one paper is fantastic.   Other community building ideas welcome. 

Thank you all who contributed.

John

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>  1. Re: How about another collaborative review    paper by group
>     members? (Jacob Barhak)
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> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 03:07:54 -0500
> From: Jacob Barhak <jacob.barhak at gmail.com>
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> Cc: JOSE LUIS RISCO MARTIN <jlrisco at ucm.es>
> Subject: Re: [Population Modeling] How about another collaborative
>   review    paper by group members?
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> Greetings to all collaborators,
> 
> Robert Smith? in a great demonstration of editing capability was able to
> assemble the collaborative paper within one night, Believe me this is not
> easy for considering there are 18 authors.
> 
> First, I suggest all collaborators thank him personally for his effort
> here. There are 18 people in the paper and he knows much about what you do
> - he visited your web pages for the paper so I suggest you repay him the
> same gesture and learn what he does better so you can retell it to others -
> just like he can tell about your work now.
> 
> Anyway, the paper was posted for SummerSim and I will handle its review -
> if you have suggestions for reviewers, please send them via personal email
> my way.
> 
> Meanwhile, before external reviewers, I suggest each one of the authors
> listed below looks at the paper draft and checks his section for accuracy
> including name spelling and affiliation - much text was changed to fit it
> into one paper - so expect changes. Unless there is an error, I suggest you
> request no changes until we get the reviews - unless it is extremely
> important in which case be mindful of Robert's time. If there are errors -
> please report those and they will be taken care of in the next revision
> after external reviewers file their review.
> 
> Here is a link to the draft paper submitted:
> https://simtk.org/docman/view.php/962/1957/SummerSim_2016_PopMod_Submit_2016_04_25_Robert_Smith.pdf
> 
> Here is the author list:
> 
> Robert Smith?, The University of Ottawa, Canada;
> Aristides Moustakas, Queen Mary University of London, UK;
> Romualdo Santos, Federal University of Sergipe Rosa Elze, Brazil;
> Nieko Punt, Medimatics, The Netherlands;
> Andreas Zeigler, University of Lubeck, Germany;
> William Jusko, University at Buffalo, USA;
> Matthias Chung, Virginia Tech, USA;
> Sixten Borg, Lund University, Sweden;
> M?elanie Prague, Harvard, USA;
> Bruce Lee, University of Pittsburgh, USA;
> Ayaz Hyder, Ohio State University, USA;
> Carl Asche, University of Illinois, USA;
> Robin Gras, University of Windsor, Canada;
> Yifei Ma, Virginia Tech, USA;
> Valery Forbes, University of Minnesota, USA;
> Tracy Comans, Vanderbilt, USA;
> Bishal Paudel, Vanderbilt, USA;
> Lucas Brotz, University of British Columbia, Canada.
> 
> 
> I really hope that some of you consider attending SummerSim.
> 
> Many thanks for all of those who participated and I hope to return with
> reviews soon.
> 
>             Jacob
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 8:24 PM, Jacob Barhak <jacob.barhak at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Greetings again to all collaborators,
>> 
>> Robert Smith? has volunteered to take over editing the paper.
>> 
>> I just passed him the draft.
>> 
>> All communications about the collaborative paper should be passed to him
>> from now on.
>> 
>> Thanks Robert.
>> 
>>             Jacob
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 1:02 AM, Jacob Barhak <jacob.barhak at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Greeting to all those who introduced themselves to the group,
>>> 
>>> When many of you joined the group you introduced yourselves and how you
>>> are related to population modeling.
>>> 
>>> Last year we published a review paper by collection around 20 of
>>> our introductions together into a paper that covers population modeling by
>>> examples. Here is a link to the paper:
>>> 
>>> Population Modeling Workgroup, Population Modeling by Examples (WIP) -
>>> SpringSim 2015 , April 12 - 15, Alexandria, VA, USA. Paper:
>>> http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=2887741&CFID=764108956&CFTOKEN=12623832
>>> Also on:
>>> https://simtk.org/docman/view.php/962/1892/PopModExample_Submit_2015_03_04.doc
>>> Presentation:
>>> https://simtk.org/docman/view.php/962/1897/SpringSim2015PopMod_Upload_2015_04_10.pptx
>>> 
>>> Many new people introduced themselves and did not participate in that
>>> paper. I was wondering if we can assemble enough population modeling
>>> examples for another such review paper - perhaps title it: "More Population
>>> Modeling by Examples"
>>> 
>>> I went through our archives and pulled the following introductions:
>>> 
>>>  1.
>>> 
>>>  Neda Laiteerapong:
>>>  https://simtk.org/pipermail/popmodwkgrpimag-news/2015-January/000030.html
>>>  2.
>>> 
>>>  Aristides Moustakas
>>>  https://simtk.org/pipermail/popmodwkgrpimag-news/2015-January/000055.html
>>>  3.
>>> 
>>>  Romualdo Santos:
>>>  https://simtk.org/pipermail/popmodwkgrpimag-news/2015-January/000057.html
>>>  4.
>>> 
>>>  Nieko Punt:
>>>  https://simtk.org/pipermail/popmodwkgrpimag-news/2015-February/000087.html
>>>  5.
>>> 
>>>  Andreas Ziegler:
>>>  https://simtk.org/pipermail/popmodwkgrpimag-news/2015-February/000060.html
>>>  6.
>>> 
>>>  Marc Lavielle:
>>>  https://simtk.org/pipermail/popmodwkgrpimag-news/2015-February/000062.html
>>>  7.
>>> 
>>>  William Jusko:
>>>  https://simtk.org/pipermail/popmodwkgrpimag-news/2015-February/000064.html
>>>  8.
>>> 
>>>  Roger Jelliffe:
>>>  https://simtk.org/pipermail/popmodwkgrpimag-news/2015-February/000088.html
>>>  9.
>>> 
>>>  Matthias Chung:
>>>  https://simtk.org/pipermail/popmodwkgrpimag-news/2015-February/000089.html
>>>  10.
>>> 
>>>  Sixten Borg:
>>>  https://simtk.org/pipermail/popmodwkgrpimag-news/2015-March/000091.html
>>>  11.
>>> 
>>>  Melanie Prague:
>>>  https://simtk.org/pipermail/popmodwkgrpimag-news/2015-April/000106.html
>>>  12.
>>> 
>>>  Ayaz Hyder:
>>>  https://simtk.org/pipermail/popmodwkgrpimag-news/2015-October/000151.html
>>>  13.
>>> 
>>>  Carl Asche:
>>>  https://simtk.org/pipermail/popmodwkgrpimag-news/2016-January/000170.html
>>>  14.
>>> 
>>>  Jeljer Hoekstra:
>>>  https://simtk.org/pipermail/popmodwkgrpimag-news/2016-January/000173.html
>>>  15.
>>> 
>>>  Robin Gras:
>>>  https://simtk.org/pipermail/popmodwkgrpimag-news/2016-March/000194.html
>>> 
>>> Apologies if I missed an introduction, it is a long unstructured list.
>>> 
>>> If everyone on the list agrees to participate, we have enough for another
>>> review paper like the last one. Participation in such a paper does not take
>>> much effort and it will benefit the group and the participants.
>>> 
>>> At this point, I will try a count. Whoever is interested in such a paper,
>>> please send me an email or respond to the list so we can assess if we can
>>> go ahead with a paper now or have to wait for more people to join.
>>> 
>>> Also, if participants from the previous paper have new examples of
>>> population modeling, please submit those to the list so we can consider
>>> those for the review paper.
>>> 
>>> And please feel free to invite other population modelers to introduce
>>> themselves and join the list of introductions.
>>> 
>>> Hopefully enough of you will be interested to allow assembling such
>>> a paper.
>>> 
>>>                  Jacob
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