[Vp-integration-subgroup] [Vp-reproduce-subgroup] White paper revision

Jacob Barhak jacob.barhak at gmail.com
Tue Aug 17 05:59:05 PDT 2021 

Well Tomas,

There are plenty of venues with different editors with different opinions.
Also,  there are plenty of opinions among the group.

Tomas,  there is no real major problem in the manuscript core. The core
information we accumulated as a group is well organized in one table. Only
this alone is worth publication,  and any delay by any party is counter
effective and delays can actually be held against us as a group.

If there is a real need for revision,  this can be accommodated and we
agreed there will be revisions,  yet we need to move forward.

At this point not moving forward is worse than trying and resubmit.

As for the original submission. The editor pointed out things like self
citation that caused the rejection. No version we have fixes it,  so there
was no way of satisfying that editor with this type of multi author paper
anyway. Also, the editor did not do proper work of seeking opinions of
reviewers as they should. So in this case we must switch. Unfortunately
there is no other reasonable action.

Might as well know what other editors and reviewers really think to focus
revisions.

And getting feedback should be a reasonably fast process. So I ask that
instead of discussing about which version has more chance,  we move forward
and actually take actions towards publication.

Hopefully Marcella can help us move forward quickly.

         Jacob



On Tue, Aug 17, 2021, 07:20 Tomas Helikar <thelikar2 at unl.edu> wrote:

> Hi Jacob,
>
> I think the point the group is making is that there was feedback on the
> manuscript from the previous journal, which required substantially revising
> the manuscript; that's what the group has been trying to do (though the
> effort has slowed down a bit).
>
> The previous journal editor raised some valid concerns about the
> manuscript state, and many members of the group agreed that a revision is
> indeed needed before moving to the next venue. Submitting the same version
> of the manuscript to another journal will, I'm afraid, result in the same
> outcome of rejection. If the rejection in the suggested journal is hard
> (i.e., no invitation to resubmit a revised version), then we lose a venue
> for possible publication of the manuscript.
>
> Best,
>
> T.
> Tomas Helikar, Ph.D.
> Susan J Rosowski Associate Professor
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> Well James,
>
> Its a bit more complicated that what you describe its not just editing
> work.
>
> Any version we submit must be approved for submission by all those listed.
>
> We have not reached this point for any other version other than the one we
> submitted before. So there is much more work than just references and
> polishing.
>
> The only version we can legally submit is this one:
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IMEgmdNkx-EsnOjGuegpenSIMmKIkK00Lc8Gred3QxM/edit?usp=sharing
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IMEgmdNkx-EsnOjGuegpenSIMmKIkK00Lc8Gred3QxM/edit?usp=sharing__;!!PvXuogZ4sRB2p-tU!XQgHtF8amUyDkO2BuwhFFjU3o8r5NAnbMvGk-yuQH46H9g16qJU5-M0UBMdg_AMv$>
>
>
> We actually have 5 other versions and may eventually get more versions
> after review and we can mention this. Yet to move the process forward we
> need to get feedback from the publishing venue.
>
> Marcella pointed out a new venue and so far there was only support,  so I
> hope she can continue the process and ask for feedback on the version we
> agreed upon to submit before.
>
> The sooner the better.
>
>
>            Jacob
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 17, 2021, 02:22 James Osborne <jmosborne at unimelb.edu.au>
> wrote:
>
>> Just to clarify the versions were talking about...
>>
>> Here is the original submitted version that was rejected by the editor
>> without review.
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IMEgmdNkx-EsnOjGuegpenSIMmKIkK00Lc8Gred3QxM/edit
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IMEgmdNkx-EsnOjGuegpenSIMmKIkK00Lc8Gred3QxM/edit__;!!PvXuogZ4sRB2p-tU!XQgHtF8amUyDkO2BuwhFFjU3o8r5NAnbMvGk-yuQH46H9g16qJU5-M0UBPvBUk-K$>
>>
>> Here's the version we've been working on
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VvyP3YZQdQYjj8DFKOpQ4pn_0pdDGgiT/edit?amp%3Bpli=1
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VvyP3YZQdQYjj8DFKOpQ4pn_0pdDGgiT/edit?amp*3Bpli=1__;JQ!!PvXuogZ4sRB2p-tU!XQgHtF8amUyDkO2BuwhFFjU3o8r5NAnbMvGk-yuQH46H9g16qJU5-M0UBMkV18u-$>
>>
>> Even in this state, I think it stands a better chance than the previously
>> submitted one as if you remove all the comments and highlighting it's a
>> cleaner story. This was a big issue with the original version and I don't
>> think it's appropriate to resubmit anywhere without looking at this.
>> The issue is that it will take a concerted effort to polish this updated
>> version. Even sorting the references is non trivial.
>> I think the only way of this happening is for a "First Author" to step
>> forward and take the lead.  They push work on the changes and chase people
>> as needed but in return they get first/senior/corresponding authorship as
>> appropriate.
>>
>> James
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 2:33 PM Jacob Barhak <jacob.barhak at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks James,
>>>
>>> This will for sure not be the final version of the paper. We will have
>>> revisions and already had discussions.
>>>
>>> The attempt here is to get the ball rolling and to we need to start
>>> somewhere,  so the proper entry point is the last agreement.
>>>
>>> If the editor will be positive, I believe we can reach a nice revised
>>> version that everyone will be gappy with with augmented list of authors.
>>>
>>> For now I just wanted to verify that Marcella is willing to do the
>>> initial communications with the editor.
>>>
>>> Hopefully its ok with her.
>>>
>>>         Jacob
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 16, 2021, 11:04 James A Glazier <jaglazier at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Jacob:
>>>>
>>>> I see a lot of progress but the text is still fragmentary. I think you
>>>> will have a hard time having it reviewed before you clean it up some more.
>>>>
>>>> Frontiers is a reasonable place for it, and it does give you the
>>>> opportunity to do multiple rounds of review.
>>>>
>>>> JAG
>>>> On 8/16/2021 11:59 AM, Jacob Barhak wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Marcella,
>>>>
>>>> So far there were no objections and support in your suggested venue was
>>>> provided by  9 out of the 17 original authors + support by many that joined
>>>> later.
>>>>
>>>> I have seen no objection to the venue by anyone. - meaning that we can
>>>> probably move on to the new venue and start the process.
>>>>
>>>> I suggest you move on and contact the editor and follow the proper
>>>> process for the venue and ask for feedback.
>>>>
>>>> Please indicate that we are seeking review to guide further revisions
>>>> that we have already begun, yet not completed, so there may be changes in
>>>> title, authors, and text, yet the core paper has been approved by 17
>>>> authors and major arguments will most probably stay.
>>>>
>>>> The version we can currently legally  submit is this one that we
>>>> approved:
>>>>
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IMEgmdNkx-EsnOjGuegpenSIMmKIkK00Lc8Gred3QxM/edit?usp=sharing
>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IMEgmdNkx-EsnOjGuegpenSIMmKIkK00Lc8Gred3QxM/edit?usp=sharing__;!!PvXuogZ4sRB2p-tU!XQgHtF8amUyDkO2BuwhFFjU3o8r5NAnbMvGk-yuQH46H9g16qJU5-M0UBMdg_AMv$>
>>>>
>>>> I locked that version for changes until the review process is complete.
>>>>
>>>> For the many who wanted revisions - we will have them still - yet since
>>>> we have not reached agreement on a revised version, it will have to wait
>>>> until after review. is provided and we can incorporate reviewers comments
>>>> in the revisions.
>>>>
>>>> Marcella, please let us know if you will handle submission and
>>>> communications with the publication venue. - Frontiers in Systems Biology
>>>>
>>>> Regarding submission, I suggest starting with doing things that do not
>>>> take effort - like communicating with the editor about this paper and
>>>> declaring intention to see the response we get.
>>>>
>>>> While we wait for responses, we can continue discussion and give a last
>>>> chance for objections to Frontiers in Systems Biology to arrive from the
>>>> original 17 contributors. If any objection to the venue appears before we
>>>> get a response, we will have to stop the process.
>>>>
>>>> Hopefully the large support in the new venue will persist.
>>>>
>>>> I suggest we start a new email thread regarding submission and that we
>>>> all get updated on the process to keep things transparent.
>>>>
>>>>                  Jacob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 1:08 AM Gilberto Gonzalez-Parra <
>>>> gilberto.gonzalezparra at nmt.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the new version is better, even though it is not ready.  The
>>>>> main points are there, which include the importance of reproducibility and
>>>>> integration in modeling biology systems.
>>>>>
>>>>> Probably, one or two co-authors need to take the lead to polish the
>>>>> article and references.  I suggest that these authors take some of the
>>>>> top positions in the list of authors (in some places author position is
>>>>> taken into account).
>>>>>
>>>>> Venue seems fine.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ***************************************************************************
>>>>> Gilberto C. Gonzalez-Parra, Ph.D in Applied Mathematics.
>>>>> Faculty of the Mathematics Department
>>>>> New Mexico Tech, NM, USA.
>>>>>
>>>>> ****************************************************************************
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 1:24 PM Rahuman Sheriff <sheriff at ebi.ac.uk>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I also agree with the venue and the suggestion to tidy up the
>>>>>> manuscript with a strict deadline.
>>>>>> Sheriff
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10 Aug 2021, at 10:43, James Osborne <jmosborne at unimelb.edu.au>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm fine with Frontiers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My 2 cents is that the revised version would be more likely to get
>>>>>> published. I think we should find time to tidy up what we need.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> James
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 5:11 PM Tomas Helikar <thelikar2 at unl.edu>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm also fine with this journal. But we need to finalize the revised
>>>>>>> version -- lots of work was done on it already.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perhaps we can recirculate the last version of the google doc
>>>>>>> version of it and set a deadline for finishing it? I don't believe it would
>>>>>>> take more than a couple of weeks to finalize.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> T.
>>>>>>> Tomas Helikar, Ph.D.
>>>>>>> Susan J Rosowski Associate Professor
>>>>>>> Department of Biochemistry | University of Nebraska-Lincoln
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>>>>>>> On 8/9/21 5:06 PM, John Gennari wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Non-NU Email
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree with Jon Karr. The venue is fine, but we need at least a
>>>>>>> quick review for readability before submission.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -John G.
>>>>>>> On 8/9/2021 7:49 AM, Jonathan Karr wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think Frontiers is fine. I think the key thing is to edit the
>>>>>>> paper (for focus and readability by a broader audience) before it is
>>>>>>> submitted to any journal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 10:31 AM Jacob Barhak <jacob.barhak at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well Marcella,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If there is no objection raised or an alternative resolution with
>>>>>>>> more support appears,  then I see no reason not to proceed. So I think we
>>>>>>>> just need to give enough time for original contributors to raise an
>>>>>>>> objection or propose an alternatives that will gain more support. In the
>>>>>>>> past we used a week for such processes,  I guess that if we wait until next
>>>>>>>> weekend and no objection is raised to the venue or an alternative with more
>>>>>>>> support appears we can proceed. We currently have 5 original contributors
>>>>>>>> supporting your suggested venue and one contributor than joined later in
>>>>>>>> the revisions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Note that in submission you should use the original version we
>>>>>>>> reached consensus for submission, yet note that that we plan to revise the
>>>>>>>> work and add more contributors. You can point to revisions we started.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lets wait until next week and hope no one objects so we can proceed
>>>>>>>> quickly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>          Jacob
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 08:52 Torres, Marcella <mtorres at richmond.edu>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Once enough contributors agree, the process for submission is that
>>>>>>>>> I’ll confirm interest (I just got an email requesting for this  this
>>>>>>>>> morning), let them know that we intend to submit 1 manuscript and what the
>>>>>>>>> proposed title of the manuscript is. Once that initial information is
>>>>>>>>> submitted, then I will be “emailed information about next steps”. Of
>>>>>>>>> course, at any point we can also contact the editorial office, but would it
>>>>>>>>> be helpful to get a sense of the process first and then ask for
>>>>>>>>> clarification as needed? At what point will we have enough responses from
>>>>>>>>> contributors to begin?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Marcella
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From: *Vp-reproduce-subgroup <
>>>>>>>>> vp-reproduce-subgroup-bounces at lists.simtk.org> on behalf of John
>>>>>>>>> Rice <john.rice at noboxes.org>
>>>>>>>>> *Date: *Sunday, August 8, 2021 at 7:23 PM
>>>>>>>>> *To: *Yaling Liu <yal310 at lehigh.edu>
>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *vp-reproduce-subgroup at lists.simtk.org <
>>>>>>>>> vp-reproduce-subgroup at lists.simtk.org>,
>>>>>>>>> vp-integration-subgroup at lists.simtk.org <
>>>>>>>>> vp-integration-subgroup at lists.simtk.org>, Jonathan Karr <
>>>>>>>>> jonrkarr at gmail.com>, John Gennari <gennari at uw.edu>, Faeder, James
>>>>>>>>> R <faeder at pitt.edu>, Winston Garira <Winston.Garira at univen.ac.za>
>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Vp-reproduce-subgroup] [Vp-integration-subgroup]
>>>>>>>>> White paper revision
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *External Email:* Use caution in opening links, attachments, and
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Me too
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To weave it into fabric.”
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> –Edna St. Vincent Millay,
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 8, 2021, at 19:09, Yaling Liu <yal310 at lehigh.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am fine with the suggested new venue and willing to revise
>>>>>>>>> further.    We don't need to wait for everyone to reply here - this email
>>>>>>>>> chain is way too long and guess a lot of people were busy and ignored them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yaling
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 4:57 PM Jacob Barhak <
>>>>>>>>> jacob.barhak at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Hana,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The revised version is far from ready to being submitted anywhere.
>>>>>>>>> There is just too much to do there to put it in shape for submission.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We do want to advance in making revisions,  yet the attempt here
>>>>>>>>> is to accelerate the process by asking a 3rd publishing party to provide
>>>>>>>>> proper review for what is actually needed for publication, so you may want
>>>>>>>>> to save your efforts until after we get feedback - they will be more
>>>>>>>>> effective then when we have feedback.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> However, we do need enough support and no objections to proceed to
>>>>>>>>> engage with the new venue suggested.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We have currently 3 of the 17 of the original contributors and 1
>>>>>>>>> who joined later that approves of a new venue. Hopefully others will follow
>>>>>>>>> so we can proceed quickly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you for the reply.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>           Jacob
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 7, 2021, 23:46 Dobrovolny, Hana <h.dobrovolny at tcu.edu>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm fine with the suggested venue. I'll double check the sections
>>>>>>>>> I was heading sometime this week, but I think all suggestions were
>>>>>>>>> incorporated last time I checked.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hana
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *******************************************************
>>>>>>>>> Dr. Hana Dobrovolny
>>>>>>>>> Associate Professor of Biophysics
>>>>>>>>> Texas Christian University
>>>>>>>>> TCU Box 298840
>>>>>>>>> Fort Worth, TX 76129
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> phone: (817) 257-6379 fax: (817) 257-7742
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From:* Vp-reproduce-subgroup <
>>>>>>>>> vp-reproduce-subgroup-bounces at lists.simtk.org> on behalf of Jacob
>>>>>>>>> Barhak <jacob.barhak at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* August 7, 2021 11:18 AM
>>>>>>>>> *To:* Torres, Marcella
>>>>>>>>> *Cc:* vp-reproduce-subgroup at lists.simtk.org;
>>>>>>>>> vp-integration-subgroup at lists.simtk.org; Jonathan Karr; John
>>>>>>>>> Gennari; Winston Garira; Faeder, James R
>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Vp-reproduce-subgroup] [Vp-integration-subgroup]
>>>>>>>>> White paper revision
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And to all white paper contributors,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You are getting this message to raise it to the top of your
>>>>>>>>> mailboxes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hopefully enough of you will look at this during the weekend to
>>>>>>>>> comment on the best way to move forward while considering the new offer
>>>>>>>>> from Marcella.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The faster we move,  the better.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>           Jacob
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 3, 2021, 01:03 Jacob Barhak <jacob.barhak at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Marcella,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Your suggestion may be the solution here.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> From what I see,  this venue is a good fit. Yet we need to learn
>>>>>>>>> the opinion of the other contributors.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If we collect enough support and no contributor objects, we can
>>>>>>>>> approach the editor and ask if the paper will receive proper review to
>>>>>>>>> guide revisions.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I look forward for more responses.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>           Jacob
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 2, 2021, 11:57 Torres, Marcella <mtorres at richmond.edu>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi all and Jacob,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I’m interested in getting it circulated, and want to propose
>>>>>>>>> Frontiers in Systems Biology as a possible venue – I just joined the
>>>>>>>>> editorial board and received notice of a focused issue that includes
>>>>>>>>> challenges in multiscale modeling:
>>>>>>>>> https://www.frontiersin.org/research-topics/24484/insights-in-systems-biology-multiscale-mechanistic-modeling-2021?utm_source=F-RTM&utm_medium=CFP_E1&utm_campaign=PRD_CFP_T1_RT-TITLE#
>>>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.frontiersin.org/research-topics/24484/insights-in-systems-biology-multiscale-mechanistic-modeling-2021?utm_source=F-RTM&utm_medium=CFP_E1&utm_campaign=PRD_CFP_T1_RT-TITLE*__;Iw!!K6Z8K8YTIA!VdlFMCuGyTWxTFwAHTufvXzSxbtUQ9ckyDlofvqR1sm1Q-6-HD2vdZtc_2WFepwnGQ8$>
>>>>>>>>>  .
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The journal is new, and I don’t remember it being proposed
>>>>>>>>> previously.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am also willing to prioritize revision and submission and
>>>>>>>>> apologize for not participating more over the summer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Marcella
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From: *Vp-reproduce-subgroup <
>>>>>>>>> vp-reproduce-subgroup-bounces at lists.simtk.org> on behalf of Jacob
>>>>>>>>> Barhak <jacob.barhak at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> *Date: *Monday, August 2, 2021 at 11:45 AM
>>>>>>>>> *To: *Alexander Kulesza <alexander.kulesza at novadiscovery.com>
>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *vp-reproduce-subgroup at lists.simtk.org
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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