[Vp-integration-subgroup] [Vp-reproduce-subgroup] Shayn Peirce-Cottler via Frontiers: Manuscript
Jacob Barhak
jacob.barhak at gmail.com
Thu Oct 28 19:26:29 PDT 2021
Hi James,
Apologies - I must have missed your email request. If anyone else wants
access and did not get it, please let me know - I will do my best to give
you access within a day.
For those who have access. Please no more additions - from now
on just corrections of typos, grammer, and grave errors. Anything else,
please leave a comment and we can discuss it.
I really want the paper out quickly - hopefully we can finish this and
submit quickly.
Jacob
On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 3:17 PM James A Glazier <jaglazier at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Jacob:
>
> I would like to review the document. I had asked for access a few weeks
> ago. Happy to look in the next few days.
>
> JAG
> On 10/24/2021 4:40 AM, Jacob Barhak wrote:
>
> Hi Eric,
>
> You are the last one I remember who wanted to edit. Please check the
> manuscript
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IMEgmdNkx-EsnOjGuegpenSIMmKIkK00Lc8Gred3QxM/edit?usp=sharing
>
> I finished editing the references and am almost ready for transformation
> to match the guidelines. I finished addressing the editor requesting for
> removal of bullet points everywhere but the stochastic section .
>
> I ask that you do not add any more references and focus only on text in
> the stochastic section. Handling the references took about 4 hours alone
> and still needs inspection.
>
> However, I will appreciate help with minor proofs - I made significant
> changes so there is a chance for typos still. Some of the changes have
> been made after more than 12 hours of consecutive work. So polish will help
> - yet no more major changes.
>
> The tasks left to do are:
> - Ask John Gennari to inspect the paper again - it has major
> contributions from his version and he should join the authors list - I must
> be ask again
> - Finish the edits to the stochastic section - Eric - you asked for this
> - Finish formatting to fit the Journal guidelines
> - Add a cover letter and split the paper into sections to be uploaded to
> the journal web site
> - Approve the version with all authors - we must do this again and get
> full approval - this may take a while
> - Determine who else wants to be listed as corresponding author -
> currently I marked Marcell and myself, yet others may want to correspond.
> - Upload the paper to the journal submission system
>
> I hope for no obstacles and full cooperation to make the process smooth.
>
> Jacob
>
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 9:08 PM Jacob Barhak <jacob.barhak at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> So Gilberto,
>>
>> The last approved version is the only one we can continue from - this is
>> unfortunate that there is a need to back port some modifications - hence
>> the conversation with Eric and Hana - yet to maintain traceability and
>> honor all contributors - this is necessary.
>>
>> And yes, there will be some differences - it's unavoidable. Yet I pretty
>> much merged the other traceable versions by now. If I missed anything - I
>> apologize - there is a limit to human capabilities.
>>
>> We discussed this multiple times on this list, if this is a stopper for
>> you, let me know immediately so I will stop work to resolve this issue.
>>
>> Otherwise, I will continue - I think I resolved most points except from
>> references and removal of bullets - still working on that and I will have
>> to deal with modifying conclusions at the end.
>>
>> And Gilberto, if you want to contribute time towards changing order of
>> sections and handle references to comply with the target journal
>> guidelines, please go online on the Jitsi channel.and I will show you the
>> extent of work needed. I will be here for at least 3 more hours - until
>> midnight - yet to be efficient, please join on jitsi if you want to talk
>> while I continue modifications.
>>
>> I hope I can finish most of the work except references perhaps by
>> midnight.
>>
>> Jacob
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 8:32 PM Gilberto Gonzalez-Parra <
>> gilberto.gonzalezparra at nmt.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jacob,
>>>
>>> I noticed that we are not using the last version that has many
>>> modifications. Are you using the previous version that was
>>> originally submitted to cureus ? and trying to incorporate the changes of
>>> the last version ?
>>>
>>> I noticed that the section/challenge *Barriers to model implementation
>>> and real-world use* was removed. I think in one of the emails it says
>>> that there is no solution proposed for this. I can write some general ideas
>>> for this.
>>>
>>> In the current version in the table it appears "*Model application and
>>> implementation barriers*" just after "Missing Annotations in Models" but
>>> later in the document appears just before stochastic modeling. I think we
>>> should keep the same order that is in the table. The article would look
>>> better organized.
>>> Best,
>>>
>>>
>>> ***************************************************************************
>>> Gilberto C. Gonzalez-Parra, Ph.D in Applied Mathematics.
>>> Faculty of the Mathematics Department
>>> New Mexico Tech, NM, USA.
>>>
>>> ****************************************************************************
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 5:38 PM Jacob Barhak <jacob.barhak at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Eric, and also greeting for the other paper contributors
>>>>
>>>> Here is a real time update just to give an idea of current editing
>>>> status.
>>>>
>>>> It took almost 6 hours to get the manuscript to the point that
>>>> contributions from Sheriff, Alex, John Gennari, and Hana were integrated. I
>>>> assume Eric will add his edits later - since those are in one section, it
>>>> should not cause any conflict. However, Eric, please be careful when
>>>> editing the stochastic section. Pease look at the comments Hana and I
>>>> exchanged. I am also adding the chat between us so it will be easier on you:
>>>>
>>>> "
>>>> Hi Hana
>>>> Can you see the chat?
>>>> I can. There's just a lot going on around here right now, so I'm not
>>>> fast with typing
>>>> I put the references in the comments, can you see them?
>>>> Yes I See them - yet you will have to ensure that this is your text -
>>>> you see, you copied text from a document where we do not have contributor
>>>> history - this was the main issue - so you will have not to prove this was
>>>> your text and only your text - this is the problem I am faced with - I
>>>> have to establish tracability - in this document I know you added the text
>>>> - yet I cannot verify that you did not include text from anonymous since I
>>>> already concluded you added text from Alex - this is how I stumbled on this
>>>> - I apologize yet I really am serious about tracing back authorship..
>>>> And thanks fro helping
>>>> If you want, you can join jitsi:
>>>> https://meet.jit.si/CollaborativePaperEditing and we can chat using
>>>> voice
>>>> I just saw your comment - it is public confirmation - this is good
>>>> enough thank you
>>>> The first two paragraphs are from the original paper. The third
>>>> paragraph is from Alex. The last two are mine. It looks like someone (other
>>>> than me) italicized the in vitro and in vivo and changed the verb on the
>>>> "Even data that are..." (I had is), but everything else is mine.
>>>> If you can modify things to the original version you added - it will be
>>>> better - if someone manipulated the text I want to remove it - even if it
>>>> is small changes
>>>> I know you're trying to get things done today, but I'll be out tonight,
>>>> so if anything else comes up, I probably won't get to it until the morning.
>>>> Well, "are" is the correct verb there, so that should probably stay. I
>>>> can remove the italicization.
>>>> Do not worry - I am making good progress and may not need help until I
>>>> am done - I appreciate the help and the fact you are working on it over the
>>>> weekend - I will later also make this chat public for transparency. I do
>>>> believe you have contributed a lot to this paper - its not the first time
>>>> you are going over it - I can only thank you .
>>>> the are was my change today I believe so its not a problem - yet google
>>>> suggests is instead I guess is and are both acceptable with data ....
>>>> nevermind that.
>>>> "
>>>>
>>>> I did my best to keep all ideas and other texts intact and there are
>>>> many comments to mark changes - the paper became longer, yet not too much
>>>> and I feel it is still reasonable .
>>>>
>>>> I am now moving to the next part of complying with the requests of the
>>>> editor:
>>>> 1) Determine authorship
>>>> 2) Converging format to journal guidelines - this also means references
>>>> 3) Detach from group - some elements already marked
>>>> 4) Revise bullet points into paragraphs
>>>>
>>>> I plan to continue editing until midnight CST with a break for dinner -
>>>> so if anyone has comments - please feel free to join the open channel that
>>>> shows the editing and influence real-time.
>>>>
>>>> Hopefully you will find the merged version in order.
>>>>
>>>> Jacob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 2:50 PM Jacob Barhak <jacob.barhak at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Eric,
>>>>>
>>>>> You wanted to edit the stochastic section - you are welcome to do it.
>>>>> Yet I ask no more references or deletions - I am overloaded already.
>>>>>
>>>>> The version benign edited is:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IMEgmdNkx-EsnOjGuegpenSIMmKIkK00Lc8Gred3QxM/edit
>>>>>
>>>>> You will need to login so that your edits will be traceable.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can join me while editing in:
>>>>> https://meet.jit.si/CollaborativePaperEditing
>>>>>
>>>>> I am sharing my screen there while editing.
>>>>>
>>>>> You might be able to help me with other sections as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacob
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 2:44 PM Eric Forgoston <
>>>>> eric.forgoston at montclair.edu> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Jacob,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you give me a link to the paper you are editing and edit access to
>>>>>> the paper I can update the stochastic section.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>>> Dr. Eric Forgoston
>>>>>> Professor of Applied Mathematics
>>>>>> Chair, Department of Applied Mathematics and Statistics
>>>>>> Montclair State University
>>>>>> Montclair, NJ 07043 USA
>>>>>> +1 973 655-7242
>>>>>> https://eric-forgoston.github.io/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 1:39 PM Jacob Barhak <jacob.barhak at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greetings Paper Contributors,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The paper editing process started and you can follow it live on:
>>>>>>> https://meet.jit.si/CollaborativePaperEditing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will keep the channel open as long as I am editing so that the
>>>>>>> process will be as transparent as possible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The first step would be to reconcile the differences between those 4
>>>>>>> versions traceable back to authors:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IMEgmdNkx-EsnOjGuegpenSIMmKIkK00Lc8Gred3QxM/edit
>>>>>>> - the submitted version
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VvyP3YZQdQYjj8DFKOpQ4pn_0pdDGgiT/edit
>>>>>>> - first committed version
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ag4ipuybjtthxgV0YjXqYP7AwwNSYcWh/edit
>>>>>>> - first committed version
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U_lTHrV6STXWNT3GiCepvsLk1WdYgzN5/view
>>>>>>> - its the first document posted
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After this step is done I will move towards adhering to those
>>>>>>> instructions:
>>>>>>> https://www.frontiersin.org/about/author-guidelines
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I estimate I will be working till late today with very few breaks
>>>>>>> and hopefully make sufficient progress.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Feel free to visit and perhaps even help. If you do, please raise
>>>>>>> your voice so I can hear you - I am sharing my screen and not seeing the
>>>>>>> video when I edit - so you will have to let me know you are in the room.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hopefully some of you will visit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jacob
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 2:52 PM Jacob Barhak <jacob.barhak at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Sheriff,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With your green light I can start editing
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Eric, the base of John's version will be merged to the best of my
>>>>>>>> ability, yet unfortunately, it has omissions and later version based on it
>>>>>>>> are not traceable back to contributors, so I can only use some of the
>>>>>>>> base.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you want to repeat edits so those will be traceable it is
>>>>>>>> possible. Yet we cannot copy verbatim without going to details.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To make things easier, I will open a channel over the weekend
>>>>>>>> during edits where anyone can join and communicate while watching the edits
>>>>>>>> live.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hopefully it will make things smoother.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jacob
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 22, 2021, 13:40 Eric Forgoston <
>>>>>>>> eric.forgoston at montclair.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear Jacob and all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I suggest, as others have done, to use the John G. version as
>>>>>>>>> structurally it has already cleaned up most of the issues raised by the
>>>>>>>>> Editor, and also has many revised and improved sections. In particular, the
>>>>>>>>> stochastic section that I worked on with others is far superior to the one
>>>>>>>>> in the paper submitted to Frontiers.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>>>>>> Dr. Eric Forgoston
>>>>>>>>> Professor of Applied Mathematics
>>>>>>>>> Chair, Department of Applied Mathematics and Statistics
>>>>>>>>> Montclair State University
>>>>>>>>> Montclair, NJ 07043 USA
>>>>>>>>> +1 973 655-7242
>>>>>>>>> https://eric-forgoston.github.io/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 12:57 PM Rahuman Sheriff <
>>>>>>>>> sheriff at ebi.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Congratulations Marcella,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jacob and all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As Tomas mentioned, John G’s version is bit more organised.
>>>>>>>>>> Although it would be nice to take that one forward, I also fine
>>>>>>>>>> with you recovering your version incorporating requested changes including
>>>>>>>>>> mine.
>>>>>>>>>> I would prefer this manuscript progresses ahead, instead of
>>>>>>>>>> another long discussion.
>>>>>>>>>> Green signal from my side.
>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>> Sheriff
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 22 Oct 2021, at 01:49, Jacob Barhak <jacob.barhak at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Congratulations Marcella,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Indeed you bring good news.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You should not worry about the manuscript. You have done plenty
>>>>>>>>>> and we can handle if from now on, you can focus on your family.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jacob
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 10:33 Torres, Marcella <
>>>>>>>>>> mtorres at richmond.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This streamlined approach sounds good to me; thanks Jacob for
>>>>>>>>>>> offering to coordinate edits. I think the one month deadline is a good
>>>>>>>>>>> maximum, since Frontiers favors quick turnaround.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't insist on participating in the revisions, but I am
>>>>>>>>>>> available to help with cleaning up grammar, typos, and so on - I noticed
>>>>>>>>>>> quite a few minor issues when reviewing the document for submission.
>>>>>>>>>>> However, my son was born a few days ago and I have limited time.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Marcella
>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jacob Barhak <jacob.barhak at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 20, 2021 11:53:58 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* Alexander Kulesza <alexander.kulesza at novadiscovery.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Cc:* Hana <h.dobrovolny at tcu.edu>; James Osborne <
>>>>>>>>>>> jmosborne at unimelb.edu.au>; John Rice <john.rice at noboxes.org>;
>>>>>>>>>>> Torres, Marcella <mtorres at richmond.edu>;
>>>>>>>>>>> vp-reproduce-subgroup at lists.simtk.org <
>>>>>>>>>>> vp-reproduce-subgroup at lists.simtk.org>;
>>>>>>>>>>> vp-integration-subgroup at lists.simtk.org <
>>>>>>>>>>> vp-integration-subgroup at lists.simtk.org>; Jonathan Karr <
>>>>>>>>>>> jonrkarr at gmail.com>; John Gennari <gennari at uw.edu>; Winston
>>>>>>>>>>> Garira <Winston.Garira at univen.ac.za>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Vp-integration-subgroup] Fwd: Shayn
>>>>>>>>>>> Peirce-Cottler via Frontiers: Manuscript
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *External Email:* Use caution in opening links, attachments,
>>>>>>>>>>> and buying gift cards.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Alex, Thanks John,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Your contribution is appreciated and since John cleared us to
>>>>>>>>>>> move forward it simplifies things. I hope he will change his mind about
>>>>>>>>>>> authorship since he contributed a lot, yet I will respect his wishes -
>>>>>>>>>>> perhaps after seeing the final version he will change his mind.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If Sheriff gives me a green light I can incorporate his
>>>>>>>>>>> modifications as well. I do ask that if any of the listed authors has any
>>>>>>>>>>> serious concerns and plans to not approve a modified version that addresses
>>>>>>>>>>> the editors requests alone alongside those I mentioned above, to step up
>>>>>>>>>>> before the work is done so we can resolve things before energy is spent.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If there will be no blocks I plan to start work over the weekend
>>>>>>>>>>> if I see no objections by then.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I appreciate the offer to help with bibliography, from
>>>>>>>>>>> experience I know it is perhaps the most time consuming. However, since we
>>>>>>>>>>> have many links and specialized publications in our list - I am not sure if
>>>>>>>>>>> any tool can make it easier - the last time I had to do a lot of manual
>>>>>>>>>>> work to fit a specific format and find all missing links and also fix some
>>>>>>>>>>> errors - no tool would have helped me then. This time I think it will be a
>>>>>>>>>>> bit easier. Yet I ask for no more references to be added - I also want to
>>>>>>>>>>> add more references, yet I am stopping myself. We can always expand the
>>>>>>>>>>> work in another future version if we have new findings.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Again note that I will only try to address the requests of the
>>>>>>>>>>> editor at this point without trying to perfect anything beyond what I wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> above and I want to keep things as traceable as possible. Once I am done,we
>>>>>>>>>>> will see if we can approve this manuscript for publication.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Unless any blockers appear, if anyone wants to actively
>>>>>>>>>>> participate in the editing over the weekend, please let me know so we can
>>>>>>>>>>> communicate better.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jacob
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 2:02 AM Alexander Kulesza <
>>>>>>>>>>> alexander.kulesza at novadiscovery.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Jacob,
>>>>>>>>>>> thanks for forwarding and you suggestions, which seems more than
>>>>>>>>>>> reasonable.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> My contributions from May 19th, May31st and June 2nd are in
>>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VvyP3YZQdQYjj8DFKOpQ4pn_0pdDGgiT/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=113860487708206439519&rtpof=true&sd=true
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The other document
>>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1esZvWWVBvpwvuFUi3C3161lthZkEBFyMRrwwozitBi4/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>>>>>>> I created initially to suggest my edits without editing the
>>>>>>>>>>> core version can be disregarded as I have tranferred all of them into the
>>>>>>>>>>> main document, cited above.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If we were on Latex, I could offer to create the bibliography
>>>>>>>>>>> but unfortunately we lack a bibliography manager integrated in Word/GDoc.
>>>>>>>>>>> If we were to work with Mendeley and someone could create a group for this
>>>>>>>>>>> paper that has a shared library I could offer to transfer citations from
>>>>>>>>>>> the paper into that database too.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know.
>>>>>>>>>>> A
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 19 Oct 2021 at 05:51, Jacob Barhak <
>>>>>>>>>>> jacob.barhak at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings white paper contributors,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Below is the response from the editor to my request and my thank
>>>>>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The editor grants us the extension by rejecting the paper and
>>>>>>>>>>> allowing time to come up with a better version. There is no time limit now,
>>>>>>>>>>> yet I want to get her a revised version within a month.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The requests are simple and easy to satisfy - and I know there
>>>>>>>>>>> are many of you who want more revisions, yet I suggest we reduce them to
>>>>>>>>>>> only what is manageable and necessary. Otherwise we will never get this
>>>>>>>>>>> paper published despite its importance.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The most time consuming effort would be adhering to the journal
>>>>>>>>>>> format as defined here:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.frontiersin.org/about/author-guidelines
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think the most time consuming task would be dealing with the
>>>>>>>>>>> references - otherwise the format guidelines seem reasonable.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We can also add some revisions we started working on. However, I
>>>>>>>>>>> will personally insist on :
>>>>>>>>>>> 1. traceability - currently there is no traceability in the
>>>>>>>>>>> revised version in the summer
>>>>>>>>>>> 2. non deletion - do not delete any content unless you wrote it
>>>>>>>>>>> originally or unless you announced it beforehand to the group and got no
>>>>>>>>>>> objections within a few days
>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Avoid Adding more material that is not in the existing
>>>>>>>>>>> versions we had - especially references - we don't have time for that and
>>>>>>>>>>> that is not what the editor asked us anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I will also ask for fast responses from all contributors.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> To be practical, I marked the submitted version and opened the
>>>>>>>>>>> document to those who requested editing rights in the past. If you want
>>>>>>>>>>> editing rights, let me know - however, the edits should be minimal and
>>>>>>>>>>> focus on areas you edited in the past and be aware that if your edits will
>>>>>>>>>>> not get approved by everyone, we will revert to the old version we all
>>>>>>>>>>> accepted. The submitted version was marked so we can always get back to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you want editing rights, let me know and I will respond
>>>>>>>>>>> within a day - I cannot promise to be fatter than that these days.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Alex, John, Sheriff, you had other versions you created, I want
>>>>>>>>>>> to merge some of your changes to the manuscript in this version - here are
>>>>>>>>>>> my suggestions:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - Sheriff, I will soften the language as you requested - this
>>>>>>>>>>> was your main request in the past, yet I will go over your list of changes
>>>>>>>>>>> and see what I else can be done without reinventing the paper
>>>>>>>>>>> - John - I will 1) merge the credibility sections , 2) delete
>>>>>>>>>>> the history related to the working group since it matches with what was
>>>>>>>>>>> requested, and 3) move the model validation barrier section away from
>>>>>>>>>>> the table since we did not suggest a solution there. Hopefully this will
>>>>>>>>>>> make the paper more appealing to you and you will be willing to add your
>>>>>>>>>>> name to the list
>>>>>>>>>>> - Alex, your changes were made on May 16, 2021 and shared in a
>>>>>>>>>>> way I can see the differences and trace them back to you - I will try to
>>>>>>>>>>> add your references and see if I can incorporate your text changes as much
>>>>>>>>>>> as I can.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If the 3 of you are ok with me migrating your changes, I can
>>>>>>>>>>> start the work to save time. Yet I want your ok first.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I know Eric and Hana were working on some sections and feel
>>>>>>>>>>> strongly about those - specifically the stochastic modeling part - I am
>>>>>>>>>>> open to your changes, please suggest what you feel strongly about..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I recall Johnathan Karr wanted to make some changes, please let
>>>>>>>>>>> me know if there is anything you feel strongly about - he had a lot of text
>>>>>>>>>>> in the paper ..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If I forgot anyone who had major requests, please remind me. .
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I am trying to avoid a never ending revisioning cycle. So I am
>>>>>>>>>>> asking you to trust me and centralize the work in hope I get a better
>>>>>>>>>>> version by the end of the week..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hopefully most of you will be ok with that.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jacob
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>>>>>>> From: *Jacob Barhak* <jacob.barhak at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 9:34 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Shayn Peirce-Cottler via Frontiers: Manuscript
>>>>>>>>>>> To: Peirce-Cottler, Shayn (smp6p) <smp6p at virginia.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Shayn Peirce-Cottler (Via FrontiersIn) <shayn at virginia.edu>,
>>>>>>>>>>> systemsbiology.editorial.office at frontiersin.org <
>>>>>>>>>>> systemsbiology.editorial.office at frontiersin.org>, Vodovotz,
>>>>>>>>>>> Yoram <vodovotzy at upmc.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Shayn,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You will get a revised manuscript targeted at your journal and
>>>>>>>>>>> get back to you with a more polished version and satisfies your requests.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It will also allow us to incorporate newer versions of the text
>>>>>>>>>>> that answer some of your requests. We really wish to publish it fast, yet
>>>>>>>>>>> we need more time for the approval process. So your solution seems correct
>>>>>>>>>>> - I hope you hear back from us within a month or so.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks for the rapid responses.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jacob
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Jacob Barhak Ph.D.
>>>>>>>>>>> Sole Proprietor, Software Developer, and Computational Disease
>>>>>>>>>>> Modeler
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>> 701 Brazos St
>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 548
>>>>>>>>>>> Austin TX, 78701
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Email: jacob.barhak at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://sites.google.com/view/jacob-barhak/home
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 7:43 PM Peirce-Cottler, Shayn (smp6p) <
>>>>>>>>>>> smp6p at virginia.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jacob,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your detailed reply. I agree that the issues can
>>>>>>>>>>> be addressed as you have described below, and that you may need more time
>>>>>>>>>>> to do so. Hence, I am going to officially reject this first submission to
>>>>>>>>>>> remove any imposed deadlines, and I certainly encourage you to make the
>>>>>>>>>>> updates listed below, and submit a new manuscript at your earliest
>>>>>>>>>>> convenience.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if you have any questions, and thanks again
>>>>>>>>>>> for considering this journal! I think the topic fits very nicely with the
>>>>>>>>>>> scope of the journal, and it is certainly an important topic to our
>>>>>>>>>>> multi-scale modeling community!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -Shayn
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Shayn Peirce-Cottler, Ph.D.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Professor of Biomedical Engineering
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Harrison Distinguished Teaching Professor
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> BME Graduate Program Director
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> University of Virginia
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Charlottesville, VA
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *From: *Jacob Barhak <jacob.barhak at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Date: *Monday, October 18, 2021 at 1:57 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> *To: *Peirce-Cottler Shayn <shayn at virginia.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *"systemsbiology.editorial.office at frontiersin.org" <
>>>>>>>>>>> systemsbiology.editorial.office at frontiersin.org>, "Vodovotz,
>>>>>>>>>>> Yoram" <vodovotzy at upmc.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: Shayn Peirce-Cottler via Frontiers: Manuscript
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Shayn,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for returning the response quickly. To you comments.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 1. This is the list of authors that agreed to submit this
>>>>>>>>>>> manuscript for review - I collected their approvals for this version
>>>>>>>>>>> personally.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Jonathan Karr, Icahn Institute for Data Science and
>>>>>>>>>>> Genomic Technology and Department of Genetics and Genomic Sciences, Icahn
>>>>>>>>>>> School of Medicine at Mount Sinai USA
>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Rahuman Sheriff, The European Bioinformatics Institute
>>>>>>>>>>> (EMBL-EBI), UK
>>>>>>>>>>> 3. James Osborne, School of Mathematics and Statistics,
>>>>>>>>>>> University of Melbourne, Australia
>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Gilberto Gonzalez Parra, Mathematics Department, New
>>>>>>>>>>> Mexico Tech, USA
>>>>>>>>>>> 5. Eric Forgoston, Department of Applied Mathematics and
>>>>>>>>>>> Statistics, Montclair State University, USA
>>>>>>>>>>> 6. Ruth Bowness, Department of Mathematical Sciences,
>>>>>>>>>>> University of Bath, UK
>>>>>>>>>>> 7. Yaling Liu, Department of Mechanical Engineering and
>>>>>>>>>>> Mechanics , Department of Bioengineering, Lehigh University, USA
>>>>>>>>>>> 8. Robin Thompson, Mathematics Institute & The Zeeman
>>>>>>>>>>> Institute for Systems Biology and Infectious Disease Epidemiology Research,
>>>>>>>>>>> University of Warwick, UK
>>>>>>>>>>> 9. Winston Garira - Department Of Mathematics And Applied
>>>>>>>>>>> Mathematics , Modelling Health and Environmental Linkages Research Group.
>>>>>>>>>>> University of Venda, South Africa
>>>>>>>>>>> 10. Jacob Barhak - Barhak, Jacob, USA
>>>>>>>>>>> 11. John Rice - Independent Retired Working Group Volunteer,
>>>>>>>>>>> USA
>>>>>>>>>>> 12. Marcella Torres, School of Arts and Sciences, University
>>>>>>>>>>> of Richmond, USA
>>>>>>>>>>> 13. Hana M. Dobrovolny , Department of Physics & Astronomy,
>>>>>>>>>>> Texas Christian University, Fort Worth, USA
>>>>>>>>>>> 14. Tingting Tang, Department of Mathematics and Statistics
>>>>>>>>>>> in San Diego State University (SDSU) and SDSU Imperial Valley, USA
>>>>>>>>>>> 15. William Waites, Centre for Mathematical Modelling of
>>>>>>>>>>> Infectious Diseases, London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, UK
>>>>>>>>>>> 16. James Glazier, Biocomplexity Institute, Indiana
>>>>>>>>>>> University, Bloomington, USA
>>>>>>>>>>> 17. James R. Faeder, Department of Computational and Systems
>>>>>>>>>>> Biology, University of Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, USA
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If there is a mismatch of authors in the submission, it can be
>>>>>>>>>>> easily corrected - we kept the paper traceable when we constructed it so we
>>>>>>>>>>> can point to exact texts contributed by each contributor through their
>>>>>>>>>>> google account and versions kept in google docs with few exceptions where I
>>>>>>>>>>> personally added text their wrote and have email conversations supporting
>>>>>>>>>>> that . I personally collected all those contributions in google docs when
>>>>>>>>>>> I assembled the version you see and made sure it is agreed upon by the
>>>>>>>>>>> contributors. It is important to note that There was one contributor that
>>>>>>>>>>> asked for more revisions and did not approve this manuscript, yet allowed
>>>>>>>>>>> submitting the text without association to it to avoid delays. The entire
>>>>>>>>>>> conversation was documented publicly in our mailing list and we got consent
>>>>>>>>>>> from this contributor to continue and use the text - You can find the
>>>>>>>>>>> conversation here:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.simtk.org/pipermail/vp-reproduce-subgroup/2021-March/000019.html
>>>>>>>>>>> - so there are no copyright issues and the name of the
>>>>>>>>>>> author is not included in the list above at their request. Those included
>>>>>>>>>>> in the list have contributed and approved. If needed, we will correct the
>>>>>>>>>>> list in the journal to match this list. Please note that we kept the entire
>>>>>>>>>>> process as transparent as possible so there will be no issues. If there are
>>>>>>>>>>> any concerns of authorship, I will be happy to dig into the history and
>>>>>>>>>>> pull out details.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2. The reason the manuscript was submitted in this form is to
>>>>>>>>>>> get confirmation on initial fit and to get some initial feedback. We were
>>>>>>>>>>> interested in fast review to get the information quickly out - Also note
>>>>>>>>>>> that we did not intend this to be a final version - we already have some
>>>>>>>>>>> modifications in the work that we would like to introduce where more people
>>>>>>>>>>> contributed , yet we have not reached agreement on those so we cannot
>>>>>>>>>>> formally publish them - however, we did reach agreement on submitting this
>>>>>>>>>>> version for review so the editor can focus us on what is important to
>>>>>>>>>>> change to get published with a 3rd Party - enough of us agreed in a vote
>>>>>>>>>>> that your Journal seems is a suitable 3rd party and hence the submission.
>>>>>>>>>>> We will be happy to spend the time to convert the manuscript to the desired
>>>>>>>>>>> format if you find the content suitable for the journal. So far your
>>>>>>>>>>> requests are reasonable and I will convey them to the group through our
>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Please note that after the list of authors there is a
>>>>>>>>>>> disclaimer : "The opinion of the contributors do not reflect
>>>>>>>>>>> the opinions of the entire working group". Initially this paper
>>>>>>>>>>> started as an activity requested by the working group leads. However, by no
>>>>>>>>>>> means it represents all opinions. The introduction in this version of the
>>>>>>>>>>> paper captures some of this history of how the manuscript was created and
>>>>>>>>>>> modified. However, we have other versions of the manuscript in work where
>>>>>>>>>>> this history is deleted - If you prefer, we can easily create a version
>>>>>>>>>>> that detaches from the working group to eliminate all concerns - this is a
>>>>>>>>>>> relatively easy fix. However, whatever fix we do, we will have to approve
>>>>>>>>>>> with all contributors.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 4 The revisions can be done in reasonable time. However, the
>>>>>>>>>>> process of collecting approval for all contributors to legally approve the
>>>>>>>>>>> revised manuscript will take more than 14 days. All contributors must
>>>>>>>>>>> approve a manuscript for publication. With this number of authors we will
>>>>>>>>>>> probably not make it in the time you mentioned - only the approval process
>>>>>>>>>>> for collecting all approvals took alone about 3 weeks to approve this
>>>>>>>>>>> version you see. Hopefully you will understand this and extend this time
>>>>>>>>>>> period beyond 14 days.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In summary:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Making the fixes you asked for towards publication is easy - yet
>>>>>>>>>>> getting the approval from so many people may take us more time than what
>>>>>>>>>>> you provide. If it is possible to get an extension, it will be appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I will add this conversation to our mailing list so we can start
>>>>>>>>>>> the process of revising the manuscript. However, if after this email you
>>>>>>>>>>> have more issues with this paper, Please advise on the best course of
>>>>>>>>>>> action you see fit so we can adjust accordingly.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hopefully we can address your concerns in time to publish the
>>>>>>>>>>> manuscript in a timely manner.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jacob
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Jacob Barhak Ph.D.
>>>>>>>>>>> Sole Proprietor, Software Developer, and Computational Disease
>>>>>>>>>>> Modeler
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jacob Barhak Analytics
>>>>>>>>>>> 701 Brazos St
>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 548
>>>>>>>>>>> Austin TX, 78701
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Email: jacob.barhak at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://sites.google.com/view/jacob-barhak/home
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 9:56 AM Shayn Peirce-Cottler (Via
>>>>>>>>>>> FrontiersIn) <noreply at frontiersin.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Jacob,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your manuscript submission. I cannot send it out
>>>>>>>>>>> for review in its current form because I have a few concerns, but if you
>>>>>>>>>>> can address the following issues, I will certainly reconsider a revised
>>>>>>>>>>> manuscript if the following are adequately addressed:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 1. The author list that is on the first page differs from the
>>>>>>>>>>> author list that was provided at the time of submission.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2. The manuscript needs to be submitted using the official
>>>>>>>>>>> Frontiers template.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 3. The manuscript states that it represents the views of a
>>>>>>>>>>> number of special interest and working groups, and the authors should
>>>>>>>>>>> provide assurances that they have the authority and approval to speak on
>>>>>>>>>>> behalf of the working groups that are listed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 4. There are places throughout the manuscript, and most
>>>>>>>>>>> frequently in the second half, where information is provided as bulleted
>>>>>>>>>>> talking points without context. Those sections should be revised into
>>>>>>>>>>> paragraphs of text or summarized in a table (or figure).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you wish to submit a revised manuscript, the journal provides
>>>>>>>>>>> a 14-day time window for you to do so. Please let me know if you have any
>>>>>>>>>>> questions.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>>>> Shayn
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Manuscript title: Model Integration in Computational Biology:
>>>>>>>>>>> The Role of Reproducibility, Credibility and Utility
>>>>>>>>>>> Manuscript ID: 793932
>>>>>>>>>>> Authors: Marcella Torres, Jacob Barhak, Ruth Bowness, Hana Maria
>>>>>>>>>>> Dobrovolny, James Faeder, Eric Forgoston, Winston Garira, Yaling Liu, James
>>>>>>>>>>> Osborne, Gilberto Gonzalez Parra, John Rice, Rahuman Sheriff, Tingting
>>>>>>>>>>> Tang, Robin Thompson, William Waites
>>>>>>>>>>> Date submitted: 12 Oct 2021
>>>>>>>>>>> Edited by: Shayn Peirce-Cottler
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Research Topic: Insights in Systems Biology: Multiscale
>>>>>>>>>>> Mechanistic Modeling 2021
>>>>>>>>>>> Review forum direct access link:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://review.frontiersin.org/review/793932/0/0
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