[Vp-integration-subgroup] [Vp-reproduce-subgroup] Shayn Peirce-Cottler via Frontiers: Manuscript
Jacob Barhak
jacob.barhak at gmail.com
Sat Jan 29 19:47:25 PST 2022
Greetings paper contributors,
The changes in funding were submitted:
Below is the message I wrote to the editor.
Hopefully the paper can be published now.
Jacob
####### Copy of message to the editor #####
Thanks Shayn,
The group updated funding sources for 2 more individuals - apologies for
the delay, yet it's a large group. I appreciate the patience - this delay
helps get things in order.
Also, one more author noticed that his name is not properly written and I
corrected it in the text - yet it needs to be corrected in the system. .
Gilberto Gonzalez-Parra is the proper name of the author - with a hyphen
between Gonzalez and Parra - Apparently I added his name improperly to the
submission system and the system does not allow me to edit this.
I also remind you that William Waites has 2 affiliations as I mentioned in
my previous message - I cannot add his second affiliation to the system -
the authors list is grayed out.
The changes to funding were added and the revised manuscript with proper
funding information was uploaded.
Please proceed with the process. I hope you find it all in order and ready
for publication.
Jacob
On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 9:28 PM Jacob Barhak <jacob.barhak at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok Ruth, And the rest of the contributors please pay attention,
>
> You will find your support acknowledged now.
>
> The link to the manuscript draft is:
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IMEgmdNkx-EsnOjGuegpenSIMmKIkK00Lc8Gred3QxM/edit?usp=sharing
>
> Here are some observations.
>
> From 18 authors, 4 declared funding - this means that they were working
> using taxpayer money on this paper rather than volunteering their time and
> therefore need to report it:
> Jonathan Karr . William Waites, Rahuman S. Malik Sheriff, and Ruth
> Bowness.
> One Author declared conflict of interest - Jacob Barhak
>
> James A. Glazier mentioned funding from multiple sources fron NSF/NIH yet
> later agreed to leave those out - if this is correct, James volunteered his
> own time towards work on this paper. James - correct me if I am wrong -
> since if you plan to report this paper in the summary reports for those
> grants, we must include those grants in the paper which will mean you used
> taxpayer funds towards this work. So far I am leaving those out since it
> seems unlikely that multiple grants supported this work and you withdrew
> your request after my query.
>
> If this is correct, this means that the rest 12 (13 if we count James)
> are volunteers that have not been paid or have any financial interest in
> this work.
>
> I will wait until the end of Friday 1/27 before uploading a final version
> to the submission system and notify the editor. I hope my analysis above is
> correct and there are no more last minute changes - we had over a year to
> put those changes in and had multiple approval rounds - hopefully we are
> really done with this paper and can move forward to other endeavors.
>
> Jacob
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> On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 3:54 AM Ruth Bowness <rb2250 at bath.ac.uk> wrote:
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>> Hi Jacob
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>>
>> If I can still add my fellowship funding that would be great. I actually
>> thought I had sent this info to you earlier but can’t find the e-mail in my
>> sent mail so apologies for this late edition! Not sure of the exact format
>> of the funding acknowledgments for this journal but could you add that I
>> was supported by a fellowship funded by the Medical Research Council [grant
>> number MR/P014704/1].
>>
>> Many thanks
>> Ruth
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>> *Date: *Thursday, 27 January 2022 at 01:49
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>> Thanks Marcella, and all paper contributors, please pay attention
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>> It has been a week since the message sent to the group.
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>> So far no one has responded with any changes in funding sources or
>> conflict of interest.
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>> So again, if anyone was funded by a source that requires recognition to
>> do this work, please let me know by friday so we can correct it.
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>> Also, again, if anyone has an objection to this paper being made public,
>> it is the last chance to do so.
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>> Otherwise I will send a letter to the editor that the group is ok with
>> the current version over the weekend and hopefully it gets published
>> quickly.
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>> Jacob
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>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022, 18:12 Torres, Marcella <mtorres at richmond.edu>
>> wrote:
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>> Email from Frontiers and question from the editor shared below:
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>> Dear Dr Torres,
>>
>> Frontiers in Systems Biology Editorial Office has sent you a message.
>> Please click 'Reply' to send a direct response
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>> New comments were posted by Specialty Chief Editor Shayn Peirce-Cottler.
>> Please visit the review forum using the link below and address these
>> comments within the coming week:
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>> Journal: Frontiers in Systems Biology, section Multiscale Mechanistic
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>> Article type: Review
>> Manuscript title: Model Integration in Computational Biology: the Role of
>> Reproducibility, Credibility and Utility
>> Manuscript ID: 822606
>> Authors: Jonathan Karr, Rahuman S. Malik Sheriff, James Osborne, Gilberto
>> Gonzalez Parra, Eric Forgoston, Ruth Bowness, Yaling Liu, Robin Thompson,
>> Winston Garira, Jacob Barhak, John Rice, Marcella Torres, Hana Maria
>> Dobrovolny, Tingting Tang, William Waites, James Glazier, James Faeder,
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>> Submitted on: 26 Nov 2021
>> Edited by: Shayn Peirce-Cottler
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>> *From:* Vp-reproduce-subgroup <
>> vp-reproduce-subgroup-bounces at lists.simtk.org> on behalf of Jacob Barhak
>> <jacob.barhak at gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 19, 2022 10:24 PM
>> *To:* James Glazier <jaglazier at gmail.com>
>> *Cc:* vp-reproduce-subgroup at lists.simtk.org <
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>> Peirce-Cottler via Frontiers: Manuscript
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>> Hi James,
>>
>>
>>
>> Here is the text I added to the submission system to correct your name
>> and draw the attention of the editor to the funding issue we discussed.
>>
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>> Hopefully no other changes will be raised by contributors and we can
>> proceed as approved by all authors.
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>>
>> Jacob
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>> ####### Letter to the editor sent in submission system ########
>>
>>
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>> Another author asked to change their name - adding a middle initial. I
>> cannot do those changes in the manuscript myself through the system since
>> it does not allow making those changes. Here is the proper name with the
>> proper middle initial:
>>
>> James A. Glazier
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>>
>>
>> Also, I am making a round of checks that all funding sources and conflict
>> of interests have been submitted properly. Here is the link to the public
>> communications:
>>
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>> https://lists.simtk.org/pipermail/vp-integration-subgroup/2022-January/000388.html
>> <https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.simtk.org%2Fpipermail%2Fvp-integration-subgroup%2F2022-January%2F000388.html&data=04%7C01%7Crb2250%40bath.ac.uk%7C2c3f8a4a29544a88f66008d9e13720f7%7C377e3d224ea1422db0ad8fcc89406b9e%7C0%7C0%7C637788449875266880%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=8TwYHyKVg%2FhxpjxluM8NwOgMlGCwM%2Fb%2B%2F7WFM3ukRNo%3D&reserved=0>
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>> Hopefully no other changes are necessary.
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>> Thank you for handling this manuscript.
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>> Jacob
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>> On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 9:05 PM Jacob Barhak <jacob.barhak at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>> Thanks James, and all other paper contributors, please read this.
>>
>>
>>
>> Your email clarifies things. We did agree long ago that funding sources
>> are at the discretion of the contributor although this was a volunteer
>> effort. A few insisted on adding their funding source and we did add those.
>> Here is some the discussion that we held:
>>
>>
>> https://lists.simtk.org/pipermail/vp-integration-subgroup/2021-April/000073.html
>> <https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.simtk.org%2Fpipermail%2Fvp-integration-subgroup%2F2021-April%2F000073.html&data=04%7C01%7Crb2250%40bath.ac.uk%7C2c3f8a4a29544a88f66008d9e13720f7%7C377e3d224ea1422db0ad8fcc89406b9e%7C0%7C0%7C637788449875266880%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=haAlRb891OoZ7eyfMKeHw8exrVXjHcjqTLs2of2kPk4%3D&reserved=0>
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>> Sheriff's request came in late and should not have been submitted that
>> late in the process, yet I decided to include his funding source because it
>> has legal implications if it is not included - I assume that tax payer
>> money paid for the time he spend on this manuscript and this requires
>> traceability - I was surprised with his declaration that does not include a
>> traceable source of fund yet to avoid any wrongdoing I decided to include
>> it. I made the email public so that everyone knows and can reciprocate.
>>
>>
>>
>> In the manuscript submission form there is a clause about declaration of
>> funding. When I signed it, I knew I was accurate in my statement about how
>> this work was funded. It is important that these declarations are correct
>> since many times taxpayer money funds this work and that money needs to be
>> traceable for accounting reasons and to avoid misuse of funds. There are
>> legal implications to incorrect declarations on this question. As far as I
>> knew, except from very few that declared funding early on when we discussed
>> it, this was a volunteer group. And for those who did declare I assumed
>> this was to trace public funds.
>>
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>>
>> I am sending this email to the entire group to make sure that everyone
>> that approved, knew that they are approving the paper text, the funding
>> sources, the conflict of interest statements, the authorship /
>> ethics statement., license and more elements as declared in this document:
>> https://www.frontiersin.org/about/policies-and-publication-ethics
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>> If anything was lost through communications I am raising again now so
>> everyone will know what they are signed on. I want to make sure that when I
>> signed in your name I was not misrepresenting anything.
>>
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>> So if anyone who reads this, and after my explanation believes that they
>> need to correct a funding statement, a conflict of interest statement, or
>> any other detail regarding the manuscript that has legal implications,
>> please announce it NOW and quickly so changes will be made prior to
>> publication. After publication, such changes may be very complicated and
>> have other implications.
>>
>>
>>
>> In simpler words, if your time spent on handling this paper was funded by
>> the taxpayer or by an entity that requires reporting the funding source,
>> you MUST declare it. If you volunteered your own time for this paper, you
>> just have to make sure you have no other conflict.
>>
>>
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>> Hopefully I am clear enough now.
>>
>>
>>
>> I will write to the editor about adding the middle initial in your name -
>> I can no longer do this though the submission system - it blocked me
>> changing the authors - this is why I wrote to the editor about the request
>> from William Waites to add his second affiliation.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am not sure if there are any more proof stages where we can fix things
>> - the publication process is different from venue to venue and it's
>> important we will be accurate in declarations.
>>
>>
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>> Hopefully this email will fix things and make sure our delerations are
>> accurate.
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>>
>> Jacob
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>> On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 12:31 PM James Glazier <jaglazier at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>> Dear Jacob:
>>
>>
>>
>> I sent the minor corrections I did because I saw your response to
>> Rahuman. I had not thought initially that you were listing funding sources,
>> but your response to Rahuman suggested you were. So if you don't want to
>> list funding, it's ok with me. I would prefer to have the middle initial
>> added if possible, simply because I otherwise get confused with a different
>> James Glazier, but it isn't critical.
>>
>>
>>
>> JAG
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>> On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 1:22 PM Jacob Barhak <jacob.barhak at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Well James,
>>
>>
>>
>> You put me is a difficult position. You all approved the manuscript
>> multiple times.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sheriff caught it just before I sent it so I added his funding - out of
>> regular process - just to avoid conflict with journal legal requirements.
>>
>>
>>
>> As for name changes, I am locked outside the system and such a request
>> should be processed through the editor. Similar to what William asked for.
>>
>>
>>
>> As for funding. We discussed this a long time ago. And the paper was
>> approved multiple times. I can probably spend an hour later to add your
>> funding. Yet there are 18 of us and only a few claimed funding - this was
>> supposed to be a volunteer effort... If all 18 ask their funding to be
>> included, we will need to reopen this again.
>>
>>
>>
>> So I ask you on what should I do.
>>
>>
>>
>> If this funding declaration is necessary for this volunteer work to
>> fulfill the legal requirement of the publisher to disclose funding I must
>> process your request and will do it tonight. If not , I suggest we avoid
>> changes. Please advise on proper way to proceed.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hopefully this will settle the matter.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jacob
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>> On Wed, Jan 19, 2022, 11:15 James A Glazier <jaglazier at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Jacob:
>>
>> Thank you for your heroic efforts on bringing this paper together. I
>> should probably change my name to James A. Glazier, which is my standard
>> listing. I should also acknowledge my funding support:
>>
>> James A. Glazier acknowledges funding support from grants NSF 188553, NSF
>> 186890, NSF 1720625, NIH U24 EB028887 and NIH R01 GM122424.
>>
>> JAG
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/17/2021 10:04 PM, Jacob Barhak wrote:
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>> Hi James Faedar, Hi John Rice,
>>
>>
>>
>> Please check the manuscript and declare by REPLY ALL if you APPROVE,
>> DISAPPROVE or ABSTAIN.
>>
>>
>>
>> James, if you responded and I did not get the email, I apologize - there
>> are some communication hiccups occasionally. Yet I need your public
>> approval to proceed and use your name.
>>
>>
>>
>> John, I know you allowed us to send the paper, yet you need to be
>> specific and declare if you want to be included as an Author or just moved
>> to acknowledgements. You did have a major contribution, so I hope you will
>> APPROVE.
>>
>>
>>
>> Once I have your answer I can proceed. Hopefully you will both APPROVE
>> quickly.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jacob
>>
>>
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>> On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 3:02 PM sheriff <sheriff at ebi.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jacob and all,
>>
>> I approve the submission of the manuscript.
>>
>> Please update the citation Tiwari et 2020 Preprint to
>>
>> Tiwari K, Kananathan S, Roberts MG, Meyer JP, Sharif Shohan MU, Xavier A,
>> Maire M, Zyoud A, Men J, Ng S, Nguyen TVN, Glont M, Hermjakob H,
>> Malik-Sheriff RS. Reproducibility in systems biology modelling. Mol Syst
>> Biol. 2021 Feb;17(2):e9982. doi: 10.15252/msb.20209982. PMID: 33620773;
>> PMCID: PMC7901289.
>>
>> Also my name and affiliation below
>>
>> Rahuman S. * Malik Sheriff*
>>
>> European Molecular Biology Laboratory, European Bioinformatics Institute
>> (EMBL-EBI), Wellcome Genome Campus, Hinxton, Cambridge, UK
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for pushing this work forward
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Sheriff
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2021-11-17 18:58, Jonathan Karr wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jacob,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you again for spearheading this effort.
>>
>>
>>
>> I approve the submission. I think the paper organizes a variety of
>> important issues toward more credible models, and the content is sound.
>>
>>
>>
>> My affiliation is Department of Genetics and Genomic Sciences, Icahn
>> School of Medicine at Mount Sinai, New York, NY, USA.
>>
>>
>>
>> As others have mentioned, I think the paper would be more impactful with
>> further editing to make the paper easier to read:
>>
>> - More clearly articulate the goals/motivation for more credible
>> models
>> - Be more concise and focused
>> - Remove redundancies by grouping related text
>> - Fill in the gaps in logic in the introduction with more
>> transitions, less extraneous information, and/or a brief outline.
>> - Change the title of the "Utility of models" section to something
>> like "Challenges with using multiscale models" (James' suggestion)
>> - Order the "Utility of models" subsections to be easier to follow,
>> perhaps from model construction through to reuse
>> - Rephrase the titles of the "Utility of models" subsections to
>> focus on opportunities for improvement rather than current problems
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 11:25 PM Jacob Barhak <jacob.barhak at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks to all contributors who answered,
>>
>>
>>
>> Most contributors approved by now.
>>
>>
>>
>> James and Wiliam, I am not sure how many more revisions there will be for
>> this publication. I did not add several important references of my own in
>> this revision. Frankly I wanted to keep reference changes to a minimum and
>> kept it as close as possible to the origin . However, we are transferring
>> the paper to the publisher under CC license, so it will not be hard to
>> create another derived version with all sorts of additions and
>> modifications in the future where people can edit it as they see fit and
>> add whatever references they want - so after it gets published you can
>> continue working on other versions as you see fit. For now I ask we focus
>> on publishing this version alone and I really hope the editors will not put
>> us through another revision round since it makes no sense at this point -
>> any change is not substantial compared to what we have already and any
>> delay is more damaging than productive.
>>
>>
>>
>> To be productive I ask that the following people who did not answer so
>> far take the time to APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, or ABSTAIN.:
>>
>> Robin Thompson
>>
>> James R. Faeder
>>
>> Jonathan Karr
>> Rahuman Sheriff
>>
>> John Rice
>>
>>
>>
>> John Rice - thanks for your support, yet you will have to be specific:
>> You can either choose APPROVE or ABSTAIN - both of these options will move
>> the paper forwards. APPROVE will add your name to the list of authors with
>> all responsibilities and privileges listed or implied , ABSTAIN will put
>> you in acknowledgements without any obligation. So John, please choose if
>> you want your name on the paper or not in this specific version - any
>> decision you make will be ok.
>>
>>
>>
>> I hope we can father all support quickly so I can move forward and submit
>> the paper.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jacob
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 5:46 AM William Waites <wwaites at ieee.org> wrote:
>>
>> I'm just chasing down references for use in another context and I notice
>> that the Ke et al paper is still a pre-print after more than a year. There
>> is no problem in my opinion citing preprints but it is suspect in this
>> case: there's been a ton of work on SARS-CoV-2 infectiousness, why didn't
>> this get published? Probably not best to rely on it as an example of
>> practice. Perhaps to fix on revision.
>>
>> -w
>>
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>>
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>>
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>> James A. Glazier, PhD
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