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    <p>Hi everyone,</p>
    <p>I'm also fine with this journal. But we need to finalize the
      revised version -- lots of work was done on it already.</p>
    <p>Perhaps we can recirculate the last version of the google doc
      version of it and set a deadline for finishing it? I don't believe
      it would take more than a couple of weeks to finalize.</p>
    <p>Best wishes,</p>
    <p>T.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/9/21 5:06 PM, John Gennari wrote:<br>
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      <p>I agree with Jon Karr. The venue is fine, but we need at least
        a quick review for readability before submission.</p>
      <p>-John G.<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/9/2021 7:49 AM, Jonathan Karr
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        <div dir="ltr">Hi everyone,
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          <div>I think Frontiers is fine. I think the key thing is to
            edit the paper (for focus and readability by a
            broader audience) before it is submitted to any journal.</div>
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          <div>Regards</div>
          <div>Jonathan</div>
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          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 10:31
            AM Jacob Barhak <<a href="mailto:jacob.barhak@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">jacob.barhak@gmail.com</a>>
            wrote:<br>
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            <div dir="auto">Well Marcella, 
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              <div dir="auto">If there is no objection raised or an
                alternative resolution with more support appears,  then
                I see no reason not to proceed. So I think we just need
                to give enough time for original contributors to raise
                an objection or propose an alternatives that will gain
                more support. In the past we used a week for such
                processes,  I guess that if we wait until next weekend
                and no objection is raised to the venue or an
                alternative with more support appears we can proceed. We
                currently have 5 original contributors supporting your
                suggested venue and one contributor than joined later in
                the revisions.</div>
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              <div dir="auto">Note that in submission you should use the
                original version we reached consensus for submission,
                yet note that that we plan to revise the work and add
                more contributors. You can point to revisions we
                started. </div>
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              <div dir="auto">Lets wait until next week and hope no one
                objects so we can proceed quickly. </div>
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              <div dir="auto">         Jacob</div>
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 9, 2021,
                  08:52 Torres, Marcella <<a href="mailto:mtorres@richmond.edu" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mtorres@richmond.edu</a>>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">Once enough contributors
                        agree, the process for submission is that I’ll
                        confirm interest (I just got an email requesting
                        for this  this morning), let them know that we
                        intend to submit 1 manuscript and what the
                        proposed title of the manuscript is. Once that
                        initial information is submitted, then I will be
                        “emailed information about next steps”. Of
                        course, at any point we can also contact the
                        editorial office, but would it be helpful to get
                        a sense of the process first and then ask for
                        clarification as needed? At what point will we
                        have enough responses from contributors to
                        begin?</p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">Best,</p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">Marcella</p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Vp-reproduce-subgroup
                            <<a href="mailto:vp-reproduce-subgroup-bounces@lists.simtk.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">vp-reproduce-subgroup-bounces@lists.simtk.org</a>>
                            on behalf of John Rice <<a href="mailto:john.rice@noboxes.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">john.rice@noboxes.org</a>><br>
                            <b>Date: </b>Sunday, August 8, 2021 at 7:23
                            PM<br>
                            <b>To: </b>Yaling Liu <<a href="mailto:yal310@lehigh.edu" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">yal310@lehigh.edu</a>><br>
                            <b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:vp-reproduce-subgroup@lists.simtk.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">vp-reproduce-subgroup@lists.simtk.org</a>
                            <<a href="mailto:vp-reproduce-subgroup@lists.simtk.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">vp-reproduce-subgroup@lists.simtk.org</a>>,
                            <a href="mailto:vp-integration-subgroup@lists.simtk.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">vp-integration-subgroup@lists.simtk.org</a>
                            <<a href="mailto:vp-integration-subgroup@lists.simtk.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">vp-integration-subgroup@lists.simtk.org</a>>,
                            Jonathan Karr <<a href="mailto:jonrkarr@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jonrkarr@gmail.com</a>>,
                            John Gennari <<a href="mailto:gennari@uw.edu" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gennari@uw.edu</a>>,
                            Faeder, James R <<a href="mailto:faeder@pitt.edu" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">faeder@pitt.edu</a>>,
                            Winston Garira <<a href="mailto:Winston.Garira@univen.ac.za" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Winston.Garira@univen.ac.za</a>><br>
                            <b>Subject: </b>Re: [Vp-reproduce-subgroup]
                            [Vp-integration-subgroup] White paper
                            revision</span></p>
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                              Email:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"> Use
                            caution in opening links, attachments, and
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                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">Me
                          too</p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">Typed with two thumbs on
                            my iPhone.  (757) 318-0671 </p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">“Upon this gifted
                                age, in its dark hour,</p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">Rains from the sky a
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">Of facts . . . they
                                lie unquestioned, uncombined.</p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">Wisdom enough to
                                leech us of our ill</p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">Is daily spun; but
                                there exists no loom</p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">To weave it into
                                fabric.”</p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">–Edna St. Vincent
                                Millay,</p>
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                            On Aug 8, 2021, at 19:09, Yaling Liu <<a href="mailto:yal310@lehigh.edu" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">yal310@lehigh.edu</a>>
                            wrote:</p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal">I am fine with the
                              suggested new venue and willing to revise
                              further.    We don't need to wait for
                              everyone to reply here - this email chain
                              is way too long and guess a lot of people
                              were busy and ignored them. </p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks.</p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">Yaling</p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Aug 8, 2021
                                at 4:57 PM Jacob Barhak <<a href="mailto:jacob.barhak@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jacob.barhak@gmail.com</a>>
                                wrote:</p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks Hana,  </p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal">The revised
                                    version is far from ready to being
                                    submitted anywhere. There is just
                                    too much to do there to put it in
                                    shape for submission. </p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal">We do want to
                                    advance in making revisions,  yet
                                    the attempt here is to
                                    accelerate the process by asking a
                                    3rd publishing party to provide
                                    proper review for what is actually
                                    needed for publication, so you may
                                    want to save your efforts until
                                    after we get feedback - they will be
                                    more effective then when we have
                                    feedback.  </p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal">However, we do
                                    need enough support and no
                                    objections to proceed to engage with
                                    the new venue suggested. </p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal">We have currently
                                    3 of the 17 of the original
                                    contributors and 1 who joined later
                                    that approves of a new venue.
                                    Hopefully others will follow so we
                                    can proceed quickly. </p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal">Thank you for the
                                    reply. </p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal">          Jacob</p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, Aug 7,
                                    2021, 23:46 Dobrovolny, Hana <<a href="mailto:h.dobrovolny@tcu.edu" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">h.dobrovolny@tcu.edu</a>>
                                    wrote:</p>
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                                      <p><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">I'm
                                          fine with the suggested venue.
                                          I'll double check the sections
                                          I was heading sometime this
                                          week, but I think all
                                          suggestions were incorporated
                                          last time I checked.</span></p>
                                      <p><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Hana</span></p>
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                                                  Dr. Hana Dobrovolny<br>
                                                  Associate Professor of
                                                  Biophysics<br>
                                                  Texas Christian
                                                  University<br>
                                                  TCU Box 298840<br>
                                                  Fort Worth, TX 76129<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  phone: (817) 257-6379
                                                  fax: (817) 257-7742<br>
                                                  email: </span><a href="mailto:h.dobrovolny@tcu.edu" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:10pt">h.dobrovolny@tcu.edu</span></a><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><br>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black">
                                              Vp-reproduce-subgroup <</span><a href="mailto:vp-reproduce-subgroup-bounces@lists.simtk.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">vp-reproduce-subgroup-bounces@lists.simtk.org</a><span style="color:black">>
                                              on behalf of Jacob Barhak
                                              <</span><a href="mailto:jacob.barhak@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jacob.barhak@gmail.com</a><span style="color:black">><br>
                                              <b>Sent:</b> August 7,
                                              2021 11:18 AM<br>
                                              <b>To:</b> Torres,
                                              Marcella<br>
                                              <b>Cc:</b> </span><a href="mailto:vp-reproduce-subgroup@lists.simtk.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">vp-reproduce-subgroup@lists.simtk.org</a><span style="color:black">; </span><a href="mailto:vp-integration-subgroup@lists.simtk.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">vp-integration-subgroup@lists.simtk.org</a><span style="color:black">;
                                              Jonathan Karr; John
                                              Gennari; Winston Garira;
                                              Faeder, James R<br>
                                              <b>Subject:</b> Re:
                                              [Vp-reproduce-subgroup]
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                                              White paper revision</span><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> </span></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">And to
                                                  all white paper
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                                                    enough of you will
                                                    look at this during
                                                    the weekend to
                                                    comment on the best
                                                    way to move forward
                                                    while considering
                                                    the new offer from
                                                    Marcella. </span></p>
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                                                    faster we move,  the
                                                    better. </span></p>
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                                                      Jacob</span></p>
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                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">On Tue, Aug 3, 2021, 01:03 Jacob
                                                    Barhak <</span><a href="mailto:jacob.barhak@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12pt">jacob.barhak@gmail.com</span></a><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">>
                                                    wrote:</span></p>
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                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Thanks Marcella,  </span></p>
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                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Your suggestion may be the solution
                                                        here. </span></p>
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                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">From what I see,  this venue is a
                                                        good fit. Yet we
                                                        need to learn
                                                        the opinion of
                                                        the other
                                                        contributors. </span></p>
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                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">If we collect enough support and no
                                                        contributor
                                                        objects, we can
                                                        approach the
                                                        editor and ask
                                                        if the paper
                                                        will receive
                                                        proper review to
                                                        guide
                                                        revisions. </span></p>
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                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">I look forward for more responses.  </span></p>
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                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">          Jacob</span></p>
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                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">On Mon, Aug 2, 2021, 11:57 Torres,
                                                        Marcella <</span><a href="mailto:mtorres@richmond.edu" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12pt">mtorres@richmond.edu</span></a><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">>
                                                        wrote:</span></p>
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                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Hi all and Jacob,</span></p>
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                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">I’m interested in getting it
                                                          circulated,
                                                          and want to
                                                          propose
                                                          Frontiers in
                                                          Systems
                                                          Biology as a
                                                          possible venue
                                                          – I just
                                                          joined the
                                                          editorial
                                                          board and
                                                          received
                                                          notice of a
                                                          focused issue
                                                          that includes
                                                          challenges in
                                                          multiscale
                                                          modeling: </span><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.frontiersin.org/research-topics/24484/insights-in-systems-biology-multiscale-mechanistic-modeling-2021?utm_source=F-RTM&utm_medium=CFP_E1&utm_campaign=PRD_CFP_T1_RT-TITLE*__;Iw!!K6Z8K8YTIA!VdlFMCuGyTWxTFwAHTufvXzSxbtUQ9ckyDlofvqR1sm1Q-6-HD2vdZtc_2WFepwnGQ8$" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12pt">https://www.frontiersin.org/research-topics/24484/insights-in-systems-biology-multiscale-mechanistic-modeling-2021?utm_source=F-RTM&utm_medium=CFP_E1&utm_campaign=PRD_CFP_T1_RT-TITLE#</span></a><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> .</span></p>
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                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">The journal is new, and I don’t
                                                          remember it
                                                          being proposed
                                                          previously. </span></p>
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                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">I am also willing to prioritize
                                                          revision and
                                                          submission and
                                                          apologize for
                                                          not
                                                          participating
                                                          more over the
                                                          summer.</span></p>
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                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Best,</span></p>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Marcella</span></p>
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                                                          </span></b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Vp-reproduce-subgroup <</span><a href="mailto:vp-reproduce-subgroup-bounces@lists.simtk.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12pt">vp-reproduce-subgroup-bounces@lists.simtk.org</span></a><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">> on behalf of Jacob Barhak <</span><a href="mailto:jacob.barhak@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12pt">jacob.barhak@gmail.com</span></a><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">><br>
                                                          <b>Date: </b>Monday,
                                                          August 2, 2021
                                                          at 11:45 AM<br>
                                                          <b>To: </b>Alexander
                                                          Kulesza <</span><a href="mailto:alexander.kulesza@novadiscovery.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12pt">alexander.kulesza@novadiscovery.com</span></a><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">><br>
                                                          <b>Cc: </b></span><a href="mailto:vp-reproduce-subgroup@lists.simtk.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12pt">vp-reproduce-subgroup@lists.simtk.org</span></a><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> <</span><a href="mailto:vp-reproduce-subgroup@lists.simtk.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12pt">vp-reproduce-subgroup@lists.simtk.org</span></a><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">>, </span><a href="mailto:vp-integration-subgroup@lists.simtk.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12pt">vp-integration-subgroup@lists.simtk.org</span></a><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> <</span><a href="mailto:vp-integration-subgroup@lists.simtk.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12pt">vp-integration-subgroup@lists.simtk.org</span></a><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">>, Jonathan Karr <</span><a href="mailto:jonrkarr@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12pt">jonrkarr@gmail.com</span></a><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">>, John Gennari <</span><a href="mailto:gennari@uw.edu" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12pt">gennari@uw.edu</span></a><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">>, Faeder, James R <</span><a href="mailto:faeder@pitt.edu" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12pt">faeder@pitt.edu</span></a><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">>, Winston Garira <</span><a href="mailto:Winston.Garira@univen.ac.za" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12pt">Winston.Garira@univen.ac.za</span></a><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">><br>
                                                          <b>Subject: </b>Re:
[Vp-reproduce-subgroup] [Vp-integration-subgroup] White paper revision</span></p>
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                                                          Email:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"> Use
                                                          caution in
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Hi Alex, </span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Thanks for your response first - it
                                                          is the first
                                                          public
                                                          response. </span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">However, I was hoping for a
                                                          discussion
                                                          rather than a
                                                          poll. We
                                                          already made a
                                                          vote and the
                                                          direction it
                                                          took us all
                                                          ended up badly
                                                          so far - there
                                                          is no activity
                                                          for a few
                                                          months now.
                                                          Perhaps a
                                                          discussion is
                                                          in order
                                                          before
                                                          making more
                                                          decisions. </span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">And Alex, time is something you
                                                          manage to
                                                          achieve
                                                          certain goals
                                                          with certain
                                                          priorities. </span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">The real question is if circulating
                                                          this paper is
                                                          on a high
                                                          priority list
                                                          for any of the
                                                          contributors?</span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Some contributors publicly declared
                                                          they have
                                                          little time,
                                                          yet we were
                                                          still able to
                                                          push though in
                                                          the past. What
                                                          has changed?</span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Perhaps a discussion will reveal
                                                          those things.</span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">                    Jacob</span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 2:00 AM
                                                          Alexander
                                                          Kulesza <</span><a href="mailto:alexander.kulesza@novadiscovery.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12pt">alexander.kulesza@novadiscovery.com</span></a><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">> wrote:</span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Dear all, Dear Jacob, </span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">I hope that I speak for many others
                                                          from this
                                                          group wishing
                                                          that the ideas
                                                          presented in
                                                          that paper do
                                                          get
                                                          circulated;
                                                          optimally in
                                                          form of a
                                                          reviewed
                                                          paper. </span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">I think that the time of the year
                                                          impedes many
                                                          of us
                                                          (including
                                                          myself) to
                                                          spend the time
                                                          needed to edit
                                                          the sections. </span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">I have created the following poll </span><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/doodle.com/poll/ydpgvgi594ubi82d?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link__;!!K6Z8K8YTIA!VdlFMCuGyTWxTFwAHTufvXzSxbtUQ9ckyDlofvqR1sm1Q-6-HD2vdZtc_2WFaV6WX1c$" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12pt">https://doodle.com/poll/ydpgvgi594ubi82d?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link</span></a><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> which intends to get agreement or
                                                          disgreement of
                                                          the group for
                                                          the different
                                                          optuions that
                                                          exist. </span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Please let me know what you think.</span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Alexander</span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 at 16:54, Jacob
                                                          Barhak <</span><a href="mailto:jacob.barhak@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12pt">jacob.barhak@gmail.com</span></a><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">>
                                                          wrote:</span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Greetings contributors, </span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Two of the contributors approach me
                                                          about this
                                                          message
                                                          privately.
                                                          However, there
                                                          were many more
                                                          who
                                                          participated
                                                          and no one
                                                          responded
                                                          publicly in 2
                                                          weeks. </span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Do you not want this paper be
                                                          circulated? </span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">I am asking those questions publicly
                                                          since this
                                                          deserves a
                                                          public
                                                          discussion.</span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Hopefully this reminder will stir up
                                                          the group.</span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">            Jacob</span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 4:46 PM Jacob
                                                          Barhak <</span><a href="mailto:jacob.barhak@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12pt">jacob.barhak@gmail.com</span></a><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">>
                                                          wrote:</span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Hi Gilberto, </span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">As you can see, there was no response
                                                          to your email
                                                          - in fact the
                                                          paper writing
                                                          stopped - I
                                                          waited
                                                          sufficient
                                                          time to make
                                                          sure this is
                                                          the case to
                                                          prove a point.
                                                          If there is no
                                                          one to tend to
                                                          the editing,
                                                          then there
                                                          will not be
                                                          any progress
                                                          and the paper
                                                          will lose
                                                          focus -
                                                          partially because people
                                                          will pull it
                                                          in many
                                                          directions and
                                                          resolution
                                                          will take time
                                                          no one is
                                                          willing to
                                                          provide to
                                                          move it
                                                          forward. And
                                                          this is what
                                                          happened here.</span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">I remind you that I wrote what needs
                                                          to be done to
                                                          make progress.
                                                          See the 4
                                                          points in this
                                                          archived
                                                          email:</span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/lists.simtk.org/pipermail/vp-reproduce-subgroup/2021-May/000098.html__;!!K6Z8K8YTIA!VdlFMCuGyTWxTFwAHTufvXzSxbtUQ9ckyDlofvqR1sm1Q-6-HD2vdZtc_2WFEHRSJVg$" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12pt">https://lists.simtk.org/pipermail/vp-reproduce-subgroup/2021-May/000098.html</span></a><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">By now it's fairly safe to declare
                                                          that the group
                                                          failed to
                                                          fulfil those
                                                          points in
                                                          reasonable
                                                          time, and the
                                                          revised
                                                          version is in
                                                          a worse
                                                          condition
                                                          towards
                                                          publication
                                                          than the
                                                          version we all
                                                          agreed to
                                                          submit
                                                          before. </span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">This situation raises the question.</span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> </span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Is there more benefit from submitting
                                                          the findings
                                                          we had before
                                                          as they were
                                                          to a 3rd party
                                                          for
                                                          publication
                                                          than waiting
                                                          for revisions
                                                          to end? </span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> </span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">I personally doubt that any further
                                                          revisions will
                                                          allow
                                                          publication in
                                                          reasonable
                                                          time - which
                                                          as I
                                                          mentioned before
                                                          delays science
                                                          rather than
                                                          advancing it.</span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> </span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">I assume that this email will start a
                                                          debate with
                                                          different opinions,
                                                          that may take
                                                          a long time
                                                          and this is
                                                          not my
                                                          intention. My
                                                          purpose is
                                                          practical -  I
                                                          am trying to
                                                          salvage the
                                                          paper so it
                                                          gets published
                                                          quickly. It is
                                                          better than
                                                          waiting
                                                          forever...</span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> </span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">I believe that what we
                                                          accumulated and
                                                          summarized in
                                                          a table is
                                                          worth
                                                          publication as
                                                          we agreed
                                                          before. We did
                                                          reach a
                                                          consensus and
                                                          I hope
                                                          individuals
                                                          will realize
                                                          this is the
                                                          most practical
                                                          course of
                                                          action.</span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> </span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Revisions can continue and
                                                          information
                                                          added for
                                                          future
                                                          versions, yet
                                                          I do ask that
                                                          this paper be
                                                          submitted
                                                          quickly to a
                                                          venue that
                                                          will accept it
                                                          in the form we
                                                          agreed upon. </span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> </span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">If we do not do this, we will be
                                                          guilty of
                                                          delaying science. </span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> </span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Hopefully contributors will realize
                                                          this and we
                                                          can proceed to
                                                          fix the
                                                          situation quickly.</span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">           Jacob</span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 1:06 PM
                                                          Gilberto
                                                          Gonzalez-Parra
                                                          <</span><a href="mailto:gilberto.gonzalezparra@nmt.edu" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12pt">gilberto.gonzalezparra@nmt.edu</span></a><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">> wrote:</span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Dear all, </span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">I like Eric's idea  i.e.  "section
                                                          heads can look
                                                          at the
                                                          technical
                                                          aspects of
                                                          their
                                                          respective
                                                          sections this
                                                          week."</span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> </span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">There are many suggestions and I
                                                          think the
                                                          section heads
                                                          can focus in
                                                          one section to
                                                          make the work
                                                          more
                                                          manageable.
                                                          Then we can
                                                          read the whole
                                                          manuscript to
                                                          check the
                                                          consistency of
                                                          the
                                                          manuscript.
                                                          Overall, I
                                                          think we can
                                                          focus on two
                                                          main ideas.
                                                          One to point
                                                          out the
                                                          challenges of </span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Biosimulation
                                                          Model
                                                          Reproducibility
                                                          and Model
                                                          Integration,
                                                          and some
                                                          initial basic
                                                          ideas to
                                                          tackle these
                                                          issues. That
                                                          might be the
                                                          main message
                                                          of the article
                                                          (??)</span><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Best,</span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">***************************************************************************</span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Gilberto C. Gonzalez-Parra, </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                                                          Neue";color:black">Ph.D
                                                          in Applied
                                                          Mathematics.</span><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                                                          Neue";color:black">Faculty
                                                          of the </span><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Mathematics Department </span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">New Mexico Tech, NM, USA.</span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">****************************************************************************</span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 8:16 AM Eric
                                                          Forgoston <</span><a href="mailto:eric.forgoston@montclair.edu" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12pt">eric.forgoston@montclair.edu</span></a><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">> wrote:</span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">It seems that progress has mostly
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                                                          there are
                                                          numerous
                                                          comments/edits
                                                          that have been
                                                          suggested and
                                                          are waiting to
                                                          be acted upon
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                                                          heads.</span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">I suggest a renewed effort over the
                                                          next week or
                                                          so: perhaps
                                                          section heads
                                                          can look at
                                                          the technical
                                                          aspects of
                                                          their
                                                          respective
                                                          sections this
                                                          week. Then, if
                                                          interested, I
                                                          can set up a
                                                          poll for a
                                                          discussion
                                                          next week that
                                                          will serve to
                                                          resolve and
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                                                          Dr. Eric
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                                                          Professor of
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                                                          Mathematics<br>
                                                          Chair,
                                                          Department of
                                                          Applied
                                                          Mathematics
                                                          and Statistics<br>
                                                          Montclair
                                                          State
                                                          University<br>
                                                          Montclair, NJ 
                                                          07043 USA<br>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 5:54 AM
                                                          Alexander
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">regarding the manuscript, what is the
                                                          deadline for
                                                          contributions?
                                                          I try to find
                                                          another slot
                                                          for a  working
                                                          session this
                                                          and next week.
                                                          Please let me
                                                          know where
                                                          help is needed
                                                          in terms of
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                                                          <p><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Eric:
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                                                          <p><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Yes,
                                                          I do see your
                                                          changes.
                                                          Thanks!</span></p>
                                                          <p><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">-John
                                                          G. </span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">On 5/24/2021 4:47 AM, Eric Forgoston
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                                                          did rewrite
                                                          the stochastic
                                                          section adding
                                                          in material
                                                          from me and
                                                          comments from
                                                          William and
                                                          James G. The
                                                          only material
                                                          I removed had
                                                          been written
                                                          by myself
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                                                          Dr. Eric
                                                          Forgoston<br>
                                                          Professor of
                                                          Applied
                                                          Mathematics<br>
                                                          Chair,
                                                          Department of
                                                          Applied
                                                          Mathematics
                                                          and Statistics<br>
                                                          Montclair
                                                          State
                                                          University<br>
                                                          Montclair, NJ 
                                                          07043 USA<br>
                                                          +1 973
                                                          655-7242 <br>
                                                          </span><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/eric-forgoston.github.io/__;!!K6Z8K8YTIA!VdlFMCuGyTWxTFwAHTufvXzSxbtUQ9ckyDlofvqR1sm1Q-6-HD2vdZtc_2WF1l-OpF0$" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12pt">https://eric-forgoston.github.io/</span></a><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"></span></p>
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