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<p>I agree with Jon Karr. The venue is fine, but we need at least a
quick review for readability before submission.</p>
<p>-John G.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/9/2021 7:49 AM, Jonathan Karr
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi everyone,
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<div>I think Frontiers is fine. I think the key thing is to edit
the paper (for focus and readability by a broader audience)
before it is submitted to any journal.</div>
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<div>Regards</div>
<div>Jonathan</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 10:31
AM Jacob Barhak <<a href="mailto:jacob.barhak@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">jacob.barhak@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Well Marcella,
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<div dir="auto">If there is no objection raised or an
alternative resolution with more support appears, then I
see no reason not to proceed. So I think we just need to
give enough time for original contributors to raise an
objection or propose an alternatives that will gain more
support. In the past we used a week for such processes, I
guess that if we wait until next weekend and no objection
is raised to the venue or an alternative with more support
appears we can proceed. We currently have 5 original
contributors supporting your suggested venue and one
contributor than joined later in the revisions.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Note that in submission you should use the
original version we reached consensus for submission, yet
note that that we plan to revise the work and add more
contributors. You can point to revisions we started. </div>
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<div dir="auto">Lets wait until next week and hope no one
objects so we can proceed quickly. </div>
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<div dir="auto"> Jacob</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 9, 2021,
08:52 Torres, Marcella <<a
href="mailto:mtorres@richmond.edu" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">mtorres@richmond.edu</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Once enough contributors agree,
the process for submission is that I’ll confirm
interest (I just got an email requesting for this
this morning), let them know that we intend to
submit 1 manuscript and what the proposed title of
the manuscript is. Once that initial information
is submitted, then I will be “emailed information
about next steps”. Of course, at any point we can
also contact the editorial office, but would it be
helpful to get a sense of the process first and
then ask for clarification as needed? At what
point will we have enough responses from
contributors to begin?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Marcella</p>
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<b>Date: </b>Sunday, August 8, 2021 at 7:23
PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Yaling Liu <<a
href="mailto:yal310@lehigh.edu"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">yal310@lehigh.edu</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a
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Jonathan Karr <<a
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John Gennari <<a
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Faeder, James R <<a
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moz-do-not-send="true">faeder@pitt.edu</a>>,
Winston Garira <<a
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Vp-reproduce-subgroup]
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am fine with the
suggested new venue and willing to revise
further. We don't need to wait for
everyone to reply here - this email chain is
way too long and guess a lot of people were
busy and ignored them.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at
4:57 PM Jacob Barhak <<a
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks Hana, </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The revised version
is far from ready to being submitted
anywhere. There is just too much to do
there to put it in shape for
submission. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We do want to
advance in making revisions, yet the
attempt here is to accelerate the
process by asking a 3rd publishing
party to provide proper review for
what is actually needed for
publication, so you may want to save
your efforts until after we get
feedback - they will be more effective
then when we have feedback. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">However, we do need
enough support and no objections to
proceed to engage with the new venue
suggested. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We have currently 3
of the 17 of the original contributors
and 1 who joined later that approves
of a new venue. Hopefully others will
follow so we can proceed quickly. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you for the
reply. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> Jacob</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, Aug 7,
2021, 23:46 Dobrovolny, Hana <<a
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black">I'm
fine with the suggested venue.
I'll double check the sections I
was heading sometime this week,
but I think all suggestions were
incorporated last time I
checked.</span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> August 7, 2021
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<b>To:</b> Torres, Marcella<br>
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Jonathan Karr; John Gennari;
Winston Garira; Faeder,
James R<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re:
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White paper revision</span><span
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enough of you will
look at this during
the weekend to comment
on the best way to
move forward while
considering the new
offer from Marcella. </span></p>
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Jacob</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">On Tue, Aug 3, 2021, 01:03 Jacob
Barhak <</span><a
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wrote:</span></p>
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Your suggestion may be the solution
here. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">From what I see, this venue is a
good fit. Yet we
need to learn the
opinion of the
other
contributors. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">If we collect enough support and no
contributor
objects, we can
approach the
editor and ask if
the paper will
receive proper
review to guide
revisions. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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Marcella <</span><a
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<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">I’m interested in getting it
circulated,
and want to
propose
Frontiers in
Systems
Biology as a
possible venue
– I just
joined the
editorial
board and
received
notice of a
focused issue
that includes
challenges in
multiscale
modeling:
</span><a
href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.frontiersin.org/research-topics/24484/insights-in-systems-biology-multiscale-mechanistic-modeling-2021?utm_source=F-RTM&utm_medium=CFP_E1&utm_campaign=PRD_CFP_T1_RT-TITLE*__;Iw!!K6Z8K8YTIA!VdlFMCuGyTWxTFwAHTufvXzSxbtUQ9ckyDlofvqR1sm1Q-6-HD2vdZtc_2WFepwnGQ8$"
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<p
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black">The journal is new, and I don’t
remember it
being proposed
previously.
</span></p>
<p
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<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">I am also willing to prioritize
revision and
submission and
apologize for
not
participating
more over the
summer.</span></p>
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<p
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style="font-size:12pt">vp-reproduce-subgroup-bounces@lists.simtk.org</span></a><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">> on behalf of Jacob Barhak <</span><a
href="mailto:jacob.barhak@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:12pt">jacob.barhak@gmail.com</span></a><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday,
August 2, 2021
at 11:45 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Alexander
Kulesza <</span><a
href="mailto:alexander.kulesza@novadiscovery.com" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12pt">alexander.kulesza@novadiscovery.com</span></a><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">><br>
<b>Cc: </b></span><a
href="mailto:vp-reproduce-subgroup@lists.simtk.org" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12pt">vp-reproduce-subgroup@lists.simtk.org</span></a><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> <</span><a
href="mailto:vp-reproduce-subgroup@lists.simtk.org"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:12pt">vp-reproduce-subgroup@lists.simtk.org</span></a><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">>,
</span><a
href="mailto:vp-integration-subgroup@lists.simtk.org"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:12pt">vp-integration-subgroup@lists.simtk.org</span></a><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> <</span><a
href="mailto:vp-integration-subgroup@lists.simtk.org"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:12pt">vp-integration-subgroup@lists.simtk.org</span></a><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">>, Jonathan Karr <</span><a
href="mailto:jonrkarr@gmail.com"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:12pt">jonrkarr@gmail.com</span></a><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">>, John Gennari <</span><a
href="mailto:gennari@uw.edu"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:12pt">gennari@uw.edu</span></a><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">>, Faeder, James R <</span><a
href="mailto:faeder@pitt.edu"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:12pt">faeder@pitt.edu</span></a><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">>, Winston Garira <</span><a
href="mailto:Winston.Garira@univen.ac.za"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:12pt">Winston.Garira@univen.ac.za</span></a><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re:
[Vp-reproduce-subgroup] [Vp-integration-subgroup] White paper revision</span></p>
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<b><span
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Email:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"> Use
caution in
opening links,
attachments,
and buying
gift cards.</span><span
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<p
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Thanks for your response first - it
is the first
public
response. </span></p>
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<p
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black">However, I was hoping for a
discussion
rather than a
poll. We
already made a
vote and the
direction it
took us all
ended up badly
so far - there
is no activity
for a few
months now.
Perhaps a
discussion is
in order
before
making more
decisions. </span></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">And Alex, time is something you
manage to
achieve
certain goals
with certain
priorities. </span></p>
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<div>
<p
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black">The real question is if circulating
this paper is
on a high
priority list
for any of the
contributors?</span></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Some contributors publicly declared
they have
little time,
yet we were
still able to
push though in
the past. What
has changed?</span></p>
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<p
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Perhaps a discussion will reveal
those things.</span></p>
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<p
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> Jacob</span></p>
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<p
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black">On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 2:00 AM
Alexander
Kulesza <</span><a
href="mailto:alexander.kulesza@novadiscovery.com" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12pt">alexander.kulesza@novadiscovery.com</span></a><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">> wrote:</span></p>
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<p
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Dear all, Dear Jacob,
</span></p>
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<p
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black">I hope that I speak for many others
from this
group wishing
that the ideas
presented in
that paper do
get
circulated;
optimally in
form of a
reviewed
paper. </span></p>
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<p
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> </span></p>
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<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">I think that the time of the year
impedes many
of us
(including
myself) to
spend the time
needed to edit
the sections. </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">I have created the following poll </span><a
href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/doodle.com/poll/ydpgvgi594ubi82d?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link__;!!K6Z8K8YTIA!VdlFMCuGyTWxTFwAHTufvXzSxbtUQ9ckyDlofvqR1sm1Q-6-HD2vdZtc_2WFaV6WX1c$"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:12pt">https://doodle.com/poll/ydpgvgi594ubi82d?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link</span></a><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> which intends to get agreement or
disgreement of
the group for
the different
optuions that
exist. </span></p>
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> </span></p>
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<p
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Please let me know what you think.</span></p>
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<p
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Alexander</span></p>
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<p
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black">On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 at 16:54, Jacob
Barhak <</span><a
href="mailto:jacob.barhak@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:12pt">jacob.barhak@gmail.com</span></a><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">>
wrote:</span></p>
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<p
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Greetings contributors,
</span></p>
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<p
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<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Two of the contributors approach me
about this
message
privately.
However, there
were many more
who
participated
and no one
responded
publicly in 2
weeks. </span></p>
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> </span></p>
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<div>
<p
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Do you not want this paper be
circulated? </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">I am asking those questions publicly
since this
deserves a
public
discussion.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Hopefully this reminder will stir up
the group.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> </span></p>
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<div>
<p
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> Jacob</span></p>
</div>
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<p
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> </span></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 4:46 PM Jacob
Barhak <</span><a
href="mailto:jacob.barhak@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:12pt">jacob.barhak@gmail.com</span></a><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">>
wrote:</span></p>
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<p
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Hi Gilberto,
</span></p>
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<div>
<p
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black">As you can see, there was no response
to your email
- in fact the
paper writing
stopped - I
waited
sufficient
time to make
sure this is
the case to
prove a point.
If there is no
one to tend to
the editing,
then there
will not be
any progress
and the paper
will lose
focus -
partially because people
will pull it
in many
directions and
resolution
will take time
no one is
willing to
provide to
move it
forward. And
this is what
happened here.</span></p>
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> </span></p>
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<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">I remind you that I wrote what needs
to be done to
make progress.
See the 4
points in this
archived
email:</span></p>
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<p
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href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/lists.simtk.org/pipermail/vp-reproduce-subgroup/2021-May/000098.html__;!!K6Z8K8YTIA!VdlFMCuGyTWxTFwAHTufvXzSxbtUQ9ckyDlofvqR1sm1Q-6-HD2vdZtc_2WFEHRSJVg$"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:12pt">https://lists.simtk.org/pipermail/vp-reproduce-subgroup/2021-May/000098.html</span></a><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black"></span></p>
</div>
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</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">By now it's fairly safe to declare
that the group
failed to
fulfil those
points in
reasonable
time, and the
revised
version is in
a worse
condition
towards
publication
than the
version we all
agreed to
submit
before. </span></p>
</div>
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<p
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">This situation raises the question.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Is there more benefit from submitting
the findings
we had before
as they were
to a 3rd party
for
publication
than waiting
for revisions
to end? </span></p>
</div>
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<p
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">I personally doubt that any further
revisions will
allow
publication in
reasonable
time - which
as I
mentioned before
delays science
rather than
advancing it.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">I assume that this email will start a
debate with
different opinions,
that may take
a long time
and this is
not my
intention. My
purpose is
practical - I
am trying to
salvage the
paper so it
gets published
quickly. It is
better than
waiting
forever...</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">I believe that what we
accumulated and
summarized in
a table is
worth
publication as
we agreed
before. We did
reach a
consensus and
I hope
individuals
will realize
this is the
most practical
course of
action.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Revisions can continue and
information
added for
future
versions, yet
I do ask that
this paper be
submitted
quickly to a
venue that
will accept it
in the form we
agreed upon. </span></p>
</div>
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<p
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">If we do not do this, we will be
guilty of
delaying science. </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Hopefully contributors will realize
this and we
can proceed to
fix the
situation quickly.</span></p>
</div>
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<p
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> Jacob</span></p>
</div>
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<p
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black">On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 1:06 PM
Gilberto
Gonzalez-Parra
<</span><a
href="mailto:gilberto.gonzalezparra@nmt.edu" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12pt">gilberto.gonzalezparra@nmt.edu</span></a><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">> wrote:</span></p>
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<p
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Dear all,
</span></p>
<div>
<p
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">I like Eric's idea i.e. "section
heads can look
at the
technical
aspects of
their
respective
sections this
week."</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">There are many suggestions and I
think the
section heads
can focus in
one section to
make the work
more
manageable.
Then we can
read the whole
manuscript to
check the
consistency of
the
manuscript.
Overall, I
think we can
focus on two
main ideas.
One to point
out the
challenges of </span><span
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Biosimulation
Model
Reproducibility
and Model
Integration,
and some
initial basic
ideas to
tackle these
issues. That
might be the
main message
of the article
(??)</span><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black"></span></p>
</div>
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<p
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Best,</span></p>
</div>
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<p
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> </span></p>
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black"><br clear="all">
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black">***************************************************************************</span></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Gilberto C. Gonzalez-Parra, </span><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica
Neue";color:black">Ph.D
in Applied
Mathematics.</span><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black"></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica
Neue";color:black">Faculty
of the </span><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Mathematics Department
</span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">New Mexico Tech, NM, USA.</span></p>
</div>
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black">On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 8:16 AM Eric
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black">It seems that progress has mostly
stalled -
there are
numerous
comments/edits
that have been
suggested and
are waiting to
be acted upon
by the section
heads.</span></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">I suggest a renewed effort over the
next week or
so: perhaps
section heads
can look at
the technical
aspects of
their
respective
sections this
week. Then, if
interested, I
can set up a
poll for a
discussion
next week that
will serve to
resolve and
finalise any
remaining
issues.</span></p>
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<p
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black">regarding the manuscript, what is the
deadline for
contributions?
I try to find
another slot
for a working
session this
and next week.
Please let me
know where
help is needed
in terms of
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<p><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Eric:
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<p><span
style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Yes,
I do see your
changes.
Thanks!</span></p>
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style="font-size:12pt;color:black">-John
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style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">I
did rewrite
the stochastic
section adding
in material
from me and
comments from
William and
James G. The
only material
I removed had
been written
by myself
originally.</span></p>
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Chair,
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State
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Montclair, NJ
07043 USA<br>
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