<div dir="ltr">Thanks Ruth, Thanks Marcella, Thanks Sheriff,<div><br></div><div>Your reply indicates that you indeed saw the message.</div><div><br></div><div>If the issue is time contractions, then it is a lesser issue. </div><div><br></div><div>Unlike writing the paper which was a large task, this task is much simpler since we are not doing the work of making the video / voice cast</div><div><br></div><div>In this case we just delegate the task to a 3rd party that does the work. We just need to pay, support, and approve.</div><div><br></div><div>The bottlenecks in this case are:</div><div><br></div><div>1. Paying the fee to initiate the work</div><div>2. Agree on how to provide feedback - for example we can agree to have one representative to oversee the video / voice cast creation process. Yet eventually we need to avoid situations where there will be major omissions or misrepresentation - eventually all those who are signed on the origins paper must agree...</div><div><br></div><div>Also this matter can wait until your schedule clears.</div><div><br></div><div>However, if there is no single contributor who is interested in securing funds or handling the process, then this idea should be shelved until such a person steps forward. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>There are benefits from outreach in different formats - not everyone reads papers anymore and our paper may need transformation to modern communication methods if we want larger impact.</div><div><br></div><div>Hopefully there is at least one in this group who is willing to pick up this idea.</div><div><br></div><div>                    Jacob</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 11:24 AM Rahuman Sheriff <<a href="mailto:sheriff@ebi.ac.uk">sheriff@ebi.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Jacob, <div>I already overstretched my bandwidth, so I wouldn’t be able to contribute this time, unfortunately. </div><div>Sheriff</div><div><br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 7 Nov 2022, at 20:24, James Osborne <<a href="mailto:jmosborne@unimelb.edu.au" target="_blank">jmosborne@unimelb.edu.au</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Jacob<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">I personally am not a fan of the podcast / videocast so don’t want to be involved but I’m absolutely fine if you (and others) want to go down that route.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">All the best<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">James<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;border-top-color:rgb(181,196,223);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt">From:<span> </span></span></b><span style="font-size:12pt">Vp-reproduce-subgroup <<a href="mailto:vp-reproduce-subgroup-bounces@lists.simtk.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">vp-reproduce-subgroup-bounces@lists.simtk.org</a>> on behalf of Jacob Barhak <<a href="mailto:jacob.barhak@gmail.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">jacob.barhak@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Date:<span> </span></b>Tuesday, 8 November 2022 at 6:25 am<br><b>To:<span> </span></b><a href="mailto:vp-integration-subgroup@lists.simtk.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">vp-integration-subgroup@lists.simtk.org</a><span> </span><<a href="mailto:vp-integration-subgroup@lists.simtk.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">vp-integration-subgroup@lists.simtk.org</a>>,<span> </span><a href="mailto:vp-reproduce-subgroup@lists.simtk.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">vp-reproduce-subgroup@lists.simtk.org</a><span> </span><<a href="mailto:vp-reproduce-subgroup@lists.simtk.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">vp-reproduce-subgroup@lists.simtk.org</a>><br><b>Subject:<span> </span></b>Re: [Vp-reproduce-subgroup] Follow-up of our publication in Frontiers with SCIPOD<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Greeting paper contributors,<u></u><u></u></span></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">It seems the message did not reach your emails so I am trying it again to make sure communications are working.<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">I will appreciate a response to know the message is not ignored.<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Hopefully someone is interest in the suggestion.<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">        Jacob<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div></div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">On Tue, Nov 1, 2022, 20:16 Jacob Barhak <<a href="mailto:jacob.barhak@gmail.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">jacob.barhak@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><blockquote style="border-style:none none none solid;border-left-width:1pt;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Greeting paper contributors,<u></u><u></u></span></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">No one has responded to the mail I sent. Since there are 18 of us, I assume it's because a reminder is needed and not because if no interest so I am sending this reminder.<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Hopefully some of you will respond this time.<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">               Jacob<u></u><u></u></span></div></div></div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 1:45 PM Jacob Barhak <<a href="mailto:jacob.barhak@gmail.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">jacob.barhak@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><blockquote style="border-style:none none none solid;border-left-width:1pt;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Greetings paper contributors,<u></u><u></u></span></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">You may recall our paper:<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><ul type="disc" style="margin-bottom:0cm"><li style="color:rgb(0,0,10);margin-bottom:0cm"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Karr Jonathan, Malik-Sheriff Rahuman S., Osborne James, Gonzalez-Parra Gilberto, Forgoston Eric, Bowness Ruth, Liu Yaling, Thompson Robin, Garira Winston, Barhak Jacob, Rice John, Torres Marcella, Dobrovolny Hana M., Tang Tingting, Waites William, Glazier James A., Faeder James R., Kulesza Alexander. Model Integration in Computational Biology: The Role of Reproducibility, Credibility and Utility. Frontiers in Systems Biology, Vol 2. 2022.<span> </span></span><u><span style="color:blue"><a href="https://doi.org/10.3389/fsysb.2022.822606" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">https://doi.org/10.3389/fsysb.2022.822606</span></a></span></u><u></u><u></u></li></ul></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">This paper attracted some attention and I received an email from  SCIPOD  about summarizing it in a podcast/video cast. You can find the publisher here: <a href="https://www.scipod.global/" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">https://www.scipod.global/</a><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">I believe this is a good idea and will reach a larger audience and increase awareness of the problem and outreach.<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">I personally decided to create a videocast of my own disease modeling work and in my own personal opinion, it may be worth doing the same for our group paper.<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Since there are 18 of us signed on the paper I cannot make a decision for all of you. Therefore I am writing to you to see if you are interested in amplifying our outreach and making a podcast or the paper. <u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Here is a link that explains what SCIPOD does and how it works:<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eJGav0Y22mlpg2RF__51_oXFWyo6uLcY/view" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eJGav0Y22mlpg2RF__51_oXFWyo6uLcY/view</a><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">I ask that you read this and then answer the following questions:<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">1. Are you interested in disseminating a podcast/videocast version of our paper with SCIPOD ?<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">2. If you are interested, how do you suggest handling the publication fee?<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">3. Do you prefer a podcast or a videocast?  I am sending examples of <u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Video:<span> </span><a href="https://www.scipod.global/eric-hinterman-optimising-oxygen-production-on-mars/" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">https://www.scipod.global/eric-hinterman-optimising-oxygen-production-on-mars/</a>    <u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Audio: <a href="https://www.scipod.global/dr-jennifer-botha-analysing-bones-to-gain-insight-into-mammalian-evolution/" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">https://www.scipod.global/dr-jennifer-botha-analysing-bones-to-gain-insight-into-mammalian-evolution/</a><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Feel free to open the discussion on this - I am just trying to see if there is interest and how much. Once we get an idea how you all think, we can figure out the next steps if there is interest.<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Looking forward to your replies. <u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">                 Jacob<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">_______________________________________________</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">Vp-integration-subgroup mailing list</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><a href="mailto:Vp-integration-subgroup@lists.simtk.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline;font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank">Vp-integration-subgroup@lists.simtk.org</a><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><a href="https://lists.simtk.org/mailman/listinfo/vp-integration-subgroup" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline;font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank">https://lists.simtk.org/mailman/listinfo/vp-integration-subgroup</a></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></blockquote></div>