[Vp-reproduce-subgroup] [Vp-integration-subgroup] Shayn Peirce-Cottler via Frontiers: Manuscript

Jacob Barhak jacob.barhak at gmail.com
Tue Nov 2 22:40:59 PDT 2021


Hi James,

Eric Forgoston was kind enough to gp through the paper and made edits - I
resolved most issues and only a few comments are left for experts on
annotation and to resolve some differences between John Rice and Alex.

I ask that we avoid endless edits and start the approval process for
submission. We should not drag editing anymore - Eric's last edits were at
the level of punctuation and proofs so we should be good. And this is after
many edits and checks I made myself and I know Hana and Alex also made
edits.

Unless someone shouts, I will start the approval process tomorrow - so I
ask contributors to give the papr a last peek before you are asked to say
Yes/NO towards submission with your name on it.

Hopefully this last warning is sufficient and you will all find the paper
in good shape.

               Jacob

On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 9:26 PM Jacob Barhak <jacob.barhak at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi James,
>
> Apologies - I must have missed your email request. If anyone else wants
> access and did not get it, please let me know - I will do my best to give
> you access within a day.
>
> For those who have access. Please no more additions - from now
> on just corrections of typos, grammer, and grave errors. Anything else,
> please leave a comment and we can discuss it.
>
> I really want the paper out quickly - hopefully we can finish this and
> submit quickly.
>
>                Jacob
>
> On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 3:17 PM James A Glazier <jaglazier at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Jacob:
>>
>> I would like to review the document. I had asked for access a few weeks
>> ago. Happy to look in the next few days.
>>
>> JAG
>> On 10/24/2021 4:40 AM, Jacob Barhak wrote:
>>
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> You are the last one I remember who wanted to edit. Please check the
>> manuscript
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IMEgmdNkx-EsnOjGuegpenSIMmKIkK00Lc8Gred3QxM/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> I finished editing the references and am almost ready for transformation
>> to match the guidelines.  I finished addressing the editor requesting for
>> removal of bullet points everywhere but the stochastic section .
>>
>> I ask that you do not add any more references and focus only on text in
>> the stochastic section. Handling the references took about 4 hours alone
>> and still needs inspection.
>>
>> However, I will appreciate help with minor proofs - I made significant
>> changes so there is a chance for typos still.  Some of the changes have
>> been made after more than 12 hours of consecutive work. So polish will help
>> - yet no more major changes.
>>
>> The tasks left to do are:
>> - Ask John Gennari to inspect the paper again - it has major
>> contributions from his version and he should join the authors list - I must
>> be ask again
>> - Finish the edits to the stochastic section - Eric - you asked for this
>> - Finish formatting to fit the Journal guidelines
>> - Add a cover letter and split the paper into sections to be uploaded to
>> the journal web site
>> - Approve the version with all authors - we must do this again and get
>> full approval - this may take a while
>> - Determine who else wants to be listed as corresponding author -
>> currently I marked Marcell and myself, yet others may want to correspond.
>> - Upload the paper to the journal submission system
>>
>> I hope for no obstacles and full cooperation to make the process smooth.
>>
>>                      Jacob
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 9:08 PM Jacob Barhak <jacob.barhak at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So Gilberto,
>>>
>>> The last approved version is the only one we can continue from - this is
>>> unfortunate that there is a need to back port some modifications - hence
>>> the conversation with Eric and Hana - yet to maintain traceability and
>>> honor all contributors - this is necessary.
>>>
>>> And yes, there will be some differences - it's unavoidable. Yet I pretty
>>> much merged the other traceable versions by now. If I missed anything - I
>>> apologize - there is a limit to human capabilities.
>>>
>>> We discussed this multiple times on this list, if this is a stopper for
>>> you, let me know immediately so I will stop work to resolve this issue.
>>>
>>> Otherwise, I will continue - I think I resolved most points except from
>>> references and removal of bullets - still working on that and I will have
>>> to deal with modifying conclusions at the end.
>>>
>>> And Gilberto, if you want to contribute time towards changing order of
>>> sections and handle references to comply with the target journal
>>> guidelines, please go online on the Jitsi channel.and I will show you the
>>> extent of work needed. I will be here for at least 3 more hours - until
>>> midnight - yet to be efficient, please join on jitsi if you want to talk
>>> while I continue modifications.
>>>
>>> I hope I can finish most of the work except references perhaps by
>>> midnight.
>>>
>>>                Jacob
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 8:32 PM Gilberto Gonzalez-Parra <
>>> gilberto.gonzalezparra at nmt.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Jacob,
>>>>
>>>> I noticed that we are not using the last version that has many
>>>> modifications. Are you using the previous version that was
>>>> originally submitted to cureus ? and trying to incorporate the changes of
>>>> the last version ?
>>>>
>>>> I noticed that the section/challenge *Barriers to model implementation
>>>> and real-world use* was removed. I think in one of the emails it says
>>>> that there is no solution proposed for this. I can write some general ideas
>>>> for this.
>>>>
>>>> In the current version in the table it appears "*Model application and
>>>> implementation barriers*" just after "Missing Annotations in Models" but
>>>> later in the document appears just before stochastic modeling. I think we
>>>> should keep the same order that is in the table. The article would look
>>>> better organized.
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ***************************************************************************
>>>> Gilberto C. Gonzalez-Parra, Ph.D in Applied Mathematics.
>>>> Faculty of the Mathematics Department
>>>> New Mexico Tech, NM, USA.
>>>>
>>>> ****************************************************************************
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 5:38 PM Jacob Barhak <jacob.barhak at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Eric, and also greeting for the other paper contributors
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is a real time update just to give an idea of current editing
>>>>> status.
>>>>>
>>>>> It took almost 6 hours to get the manuscript to the point that
>>>>> contributions from Sheriff, Alex, John Gennari, and Hana were integrated. I
>>>>> assume Eric will add his edits later - since those are in one section, it
>>>>> should not cause any conflict. However, Eric, please be careful when
>>>>> editing the stochastic section. Pease look at the comments Hana and I
>>>>> exchanged. I am also adding the chat between us so it will be easier on you:
>>>>>
>>>>> "
>>>>> Hi Hana
>>>>> Can you see the chat?
>>>>> I can. There's just a lot going on around here right now, so I'm not
>>>>> fast with typing
>>>>> I put the references in the comments, can you see them?
>>>>> Yes I See them - yet you will have to ensure that this is your text -
>>>>> you see, you copied text from a document where we do not have contributor
>>>>> history - this was the main issue - so you will have not to prove this was
>>>>> your text and only your text -  this is the problem I am faced with - I
>>>>> have to establish tracability - in this document I know you added the text
>>>>> - yet I cannot verify that you did not include text from anonymous since I
>>>>> already concluded you added text from Alex - this is how I stumbled on this
>>>>> - I apologize yet I really am serious about tracing back authorship..
>>>>> And thanks fro helping
>>>>> If you want, you can join jitsi:
>>>>> https://meet.jit.si/CollaborativePaperEditing   and we can chat using
>>>>> voice
>>>>> I just saw your comment - it is public confirmation - this is good
>>>>> enough  thank you
>>>>> The first two paragraphs are from the original paper. The third
>>>>> paragraph is from Alex. The last two are mine. It looks like someone (other
>>>>> than me) italicized the in vitro and in vivo and changed the verb on the
>>>>> "Even data that are..." (I had is), but everything else is mine.
>>>>> If you can modify things to the original version you added - it will
>>>>> be better - if someone manipulated the text I want to remove it - even if
>>>>> it is small changes
>>>>> I know you're trying to get things done today, but I'll be out
>>>>> tonight, so if anything else comes up, I probably won't get to it until the
>>>>> morning.
>>>>> Well, "are" is the correct verb there, so that should probably stay. I
>>>>> can remove the italicization.
>>>>> Do not worry - I am making good progress and may not need help until I
>>>>> am done - I appreciate the help and the fact you are working on it over the
>>>>> weekend -  I will later also make this chat public for transparency.  I do
>>>>> believe you have contributed a lot to this paper - its not the first time
>>>>> you are going over it - I can only thank you .
>>>>> the are was my change today I believe so its not a problem - yet
>>>>> google suggests is instead I guess is and are both acceptable with data
>>>>> .... nevermind that.
>>>>> "
>>>>>
>>>>> I did my best to keep all ideas and other texts intact and there are
>>>>> many comments to mark changes  - the paper became longer, yet not too much
>>>>> and I feel it is still reasonable .
>>>>>
>>>>> I am now moving to the next part of complying with the requests of the
>>>>> editor:
>>>>> 1) Determine authorship
>>>>> 2) Converging format to journal guidelines - this also means references
>>>>> 3) Detach from group - some elements already marked
>>>>> 4) Revise bullet points into paragraphs
>>>>>
>>>>> I plan to continue editing until midnight CST with a break for dinner
>>>>> - so if anyone has comments - please feel free to join the open channel
>>>>> that shows the editing and influence real-time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hopefully you will find the merged version in order.
>>>>>
>>>>>                Jacob
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 2:50 PM Jacob Barhak <jacob.barhak at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Eric,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You wanted to edit the stochastic section - you are welcome to do it.
>>>>>> Yet I ask no more references or deletions - I am overloaded already.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The version benign edited is:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IMEgmdNkx-EsnOjGuegpenSIMmKIkK00Lc8Gred3QxM/edit
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You will need to login so that your edits will be traceable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can join me while editing in:
>>>>>> https://meet.jit.si/CollaborativePaperEditing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am sharing my screen there while editing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You might be able to help me with other sections as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>               Jacob
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 2:44 PM Eric Forgoston <
>>>>>> eric.forgoston at montclair.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Jacob,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you give me a link to the paper you are editing and edit access
>>>>>>> to the paper I can update the stochastic section.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>>>> Dr. Eric Forgoston
>>>>>>> Professor of Applied Mathematics
>>>>>>> Chair, Department of Applied Mathematics and Statistics
>>>>>>> Montclair State University
>>>>>>> Montclair, NJ  07043 USA
>>>>>>> +1 973 655-7242
>>>>>>> https://eric-forgoston.github.io/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 1:39 PM Jacob Barhak <jacob.barhak at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Greetings Paper Contributors,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The paper editing process started and you can follow it live on:
>>>>>>>> https://meet.jit.si/CollaborativePaperEditing
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I will keep the channel open as long as I am editing so that the
>>>>>>>> process will be as transparent as possible.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The first step would be to reconcile the differences between those
>>>>>>>> 4 versions traceable back to authors:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IMEgmdNkx-EsnOjGuegpenSIMmKIkK00Lc8Gred3QxM/edit
>>>>>>>> - the submitted version
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VvyP3YZQdQYjj8DFKOpQ4pn_0pdDGgiT/edit
>>>>>>>> - first committed version
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ag4ipuybjtthxgV0YjXqYP7AwwNSYcWh/edit
>>>>>>>> - first committed version
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U_lTHrV6STXWNT3GiCepvsLk1WdYgzN5/view
>>>>>>>> - its the first document posted
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After this step is done I will move towards adhering to those
>>>>>>>> instructions:
>>>>>>>> https://www.frontiersin.org/about/author-guidelines
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I estimate I will be working till late today with very few breaks
>>>>>>>> and hopefully make sufficient progress.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Feel free to visit and perhaps even help. If you do, please raise
>>>>>>>> your voice so I can hear you - I am sharing my screen and not seeing the
>>>>>>>> video when I edit - so you will have to let me know you are in the room.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hopefully some of you will visit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>               Jacob
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 2:52 PM Jacob Barhak <
>>>>>>>> jacob.barhak at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Sheriff,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> With your green light I can start editing
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Eric,  the base of John's version will be merged to the best of my
>>>>>>>>> ability, yet unfortunately, it has omissions and later version based on it
>>>>>>>>> are not traceable back to contributors,  so I can only use some of  the
>>>>>>>>> base.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you want to repeat edits so those will be traceable it is
>>>>>>>>> possible. Yet we cannot copy verbatim without going to details.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To make things easier,  I will open a channel over the weekend
>>>>>>>>> during edits where anyone can join and communicate while watching the edits
>>>>>>>>> live.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hopefully it will make things smoother.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             Jacob
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 22, 2021, 13:40 Eric Forgoston <
>>>>>>>>> eric.forgoston at montclair.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear Jacob and all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I suggest, as others have done, to use the John G. version as
>>>>>>>>>> structurally it has already cleaned up most of the issues raised by the
>>>>>>>>>> Editor, and also has many revised and improved sections. In particular, the
>>>>>>>>>> stochastic section that I worked on with others is far superior to the one
>>>>>>>>>> in the paper submitted to Frontiers.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Eric Forgoston
>>>>>>>>>> Professor of Applied Mathematics
>>>>>>>>>> Chair, Department of Applied Mathematics and Statistics
>>>>>>>>>> Montclair State University
>>>>>>>>>> Montclair, NJ  07043 USA
>>>>>>>>>> +1 973 655-7242
>>>>>>>>>> https://eric-forgoston.github.io/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 12:57 PM Rahuman Sheriff <
>>>>>>>>>> sheriff at ebi.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Congratulations Marcella,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jacob and all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As Tomas mentioned, John G’s version is bit more organised.
>>>>>>>>>>> Although it would be nice to take that one forward, I also fine
>>>>>>>>>>> with you recovering your version incorporating requested changes including
>>>>>>>>>>> mine.
>>>>>>>>>>> I would prefer this manuscript progresses ahead, instead of
>>>>>>>>>>> another long discussion.
>>>>>>>>>>> Green signal from my side.
>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>> Sheriff
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 22 Oct 2021, at 01:49, Jacob Barhak <jacob.barhak at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Congratulations Marcella,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Indeed you bring good news.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You should not worry about the manuscript.  You have done plenty
>>>>>>>>>>> and we can handle if from now on,  you can focus on your family.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>          Jacob
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 10:33 Torres, Marcella <
>>>>>>>>>>> mtorres at richmond.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This streamlined approach sounds good to me; thanks Jacob for
>>>>>>>>>>>> offering to coordinate edits. I think the one month deadline is a good
>>>>>>>>>>>> maximum, since Frontiers favors quick turnaround.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't insist on participating in the revisions, but I am
>>>>>>>>>>>> available to help with cleaning up grammar, typos, and so on - I noticed
>>>>>>>>>>>> quite a few minor issues when reviewing the document for submission.
>>>>>>>>>>>> However, my son was born a few days ago and I have limited time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Marcella
>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jacob Barhak <jacob.barhak at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 20, 2021 11:53:58 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* Alexander Kulesza <alexander.kulesza at novadiscovery.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Cc:* Hana <h.dobrovolny at tcu.edu>; James Osborne <
>>>>>>>>>>>> jmosborne at unimelb.edu.au>; John Rice <john.rice at noboxes.org>;
>>>>>>>>>>>> Torres, Marcella <mtorres at richmond.edu>;
>>>>>>>>>>>> vp-reproduce-subgroup at lists.simtk.org <
>>>>>>>>>>>> vp-reproduce-subgroup at lists.simtk.org>;
>>>>>>>>>>>> vp-integration-subgroup at lists.simtk.org <
>>>>>>>>>>>> vp-integration-subgroup at lists.simtk.org>; Jonathan Karr <
>>>>>>>>>>>> jonrkarr at gmail.com>; John Gennari <gennari at uw.edu>; Winston
>>>>>>>>>>>> Garira <Winston.Garira at univen.ac.za>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Vp-integration-subgroup] Fwd: Shayn
>>>>>>>>>>>> Peirce-Cottler via Frontiers: Manuscript
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *External Email:* Use caution in opening links, attachments,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and buying gift cards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Alex, Thanks John,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Your contribution is appreciated and since John cleared us to
>>>>>>>>>>>> move forward it simplifies things. I hope he will change his mind about
>>>>>>>>>>>> authorship since he contributed a lot, yet I will respect his wishes -
>>>>>>>>>>>> perhaps after seeing the final version he will change his mind.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If Sheriff gives me a green light I can incorporate his
>>>>>>>>>>>> modifications as well. I do ask that if any of the listed authors has any
>>>>>>>>>>>> serious concerns and plans to not approve a modified version that addresses
>>>>>>>>>>>> the editors requests alone alongside those I mentioned above, to step up
>>>>>>>>>>>> before the work is done so we can resolve things before energy is spent.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If there will be no blocks I plan to start work over the
>>>>>>>>>>>> weekend if I see no objections by then.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I appreciate the offer to help with bibliography, from
>>>>>>>>>>>> experience I know it is perhaps the most time consuming. However, since we
>>>>>>>>>>>> have many links and specialized publications in our list - I am not sure if
>>>>>>>>>>>> any tool can make it easier - the last time I had to do a lot of manual
>>>>>>>>>>>> work to fit a specific format and find all missing links and also fix some
>>>>>>>>>>>> errors - no tool would have helped me then. This time I think it will be a
>>>>>>>>>>>> bit easier. Yet I ask for no more references to be added - I also want to
>>>>>>>>>>>> add more references, yet I am stopping myself. We can always expand the
>>>>>>>>>>>> work in another future version if we have new findings.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Again note that I will only try to address the requests of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> editor at this point without trying to perfect anything beyond what I wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> above and I want to keep things as traceable as possible. Once I am done,we
>>>>>>>>>>>> will see if we can approve this manuscript for publication.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Unless any blockers appear, if anyone wants to actively
>>>>>>>>>>>> participate in the editing over the weekend, please let me know so we can
>>>>>>>>>>>> communicate better.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>             Jacob
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 2:02 AM Alexander Kulesza <
>>>>>>>>>>>> alexander.kulesza at novadiscovery.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Jacob,
>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks for forwarding and you suggestions, which seems more
>>>>>>>>>>>> than reasonable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> My contributions from May 19th, May31st and June 2nd are in
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VvyP3YZQdQYjj8DFKOpQ4pn_0pdDGgiT/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=113860487708206439519&rtpof=true&sd=true
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The other document
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1esZvWWVBvpwvuFUi3C3161lthZkEBFyMRrwwozitBi4/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>>>>>>>>  I created initially to suggest my edits without editing the
>>>>>>>>>>>> core version can be disregarded as I have tranferred all of them into the
>>>>>>>>>>>> main document, cited above.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If we were on Latex, I could offer to create the bibliography
>>>>>>>>>>>> but unfortunately we lack a bibliography manager integrated in Word/GDoc.
>>>>>>>>>>>> If we were to work with Mendeley and someone could create a group for this
>>>>>>>>>>>> paper that has a shared library I could offer to transfer citations from
>>>>>>>>>>>> the paper into that database too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know.
>>>>>>>>>>>> A
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 19 Oct 2021 at 05:51, Jacob Barhak <
>>>>>>>>>>>> jacob.barhak at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings white paper contributors,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Below is the response from the editor to my request and my
>>>>>>>>>>>> thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The editor grants us the extension by rejecting the paper and
>>>>>>>>>>>> allowing time to come up with a better version. There is no time limit now,
>>>>>>>>>>>> yet I want to get her a revised version within a month.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The requests are simple and easy to satisfy - and I know there
>>>>>>>>>>>> are many of you who want more revisions, yet I suggest we reduce them to
>>>>>>>>>>>> only what is manageable and necessary. Otherwise we will never get this
>>>>>>>>>>>> paper published despite its importance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The most time consuming effort would be adhering to the journal
>>>>>>>>>>>> format as defined here:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.frontiersin.org/about/author-guidelines
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the most time consuming task would be dealing with the
>>>>>>>>>>>> references - otherwise the format guidelines seem reasonable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We can also add some revisions we started working on. However,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I will personally insist on :
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. traceability - currently there is no traceability in the
>>>>>>>>>>>> revised version in the summer
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. non deletion - do not delete any content unless you wrote it
>>>>>>>>>>>> originally or unless you announced it beforehand to the group and got no
>>>>>>>>>>>> objections within a few days
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Avoid Adding more material that is not in the existing
>>>>>>>>>>>> versions we had - especially references - we don't have time for that and
>>>>>>>>>>>> that is not what the editor asked us anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I will also ask for fast responses from all contributors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To be practical, I marked the submitted version and opened the
>>>>>>>>>>>> document to those who requested editing rights in the past.  If you want
>>>>>>>>>>>> editing rights, let me know - however, the edits should be minimal and
>>>>>>>>>>>> focus on areas you edited in the past and be aware that if your edits will
>>>>>>>>>>>> not get approved by everyone, we will revert to the old version we all
>>>>>>>>>>>> accepted. The submitted version was marked so we can always get back to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want editing rights, let me know and I will respond
>>>>>>>>>>>> within a day - I cannot promise to be fatter than that these days.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex, John, Sheriff, you had other versions you created, I want
>>>>>>>>>>>> to merge some of your changes to the manuscript in this version - here are
>>>>>>>>>>>> my suggestions:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Sheriff, I will soften the language as you requested - this
>>>>>>>>>>>> was your main request in the past, yet I will go over your list of changes
>>>>>>>>>>>> and see what I else can be done without reinventing the paper
>>>>>>>>>>>> - John - I will 1) merge the credibility sections , 2) delete
>>>>>>>>>>>> the history related to the working group since it matches with what was
>>>>>>>>>>>> requested, and 3) move the model validation barrier section away from
>>>>>>>>>>>> the table since we did not suggest a solution there.  Hopefully this will
>>>>>>>>>>>> make the paper more appealing to you and you will be willing to add your
>>>>>>>>>>>> name to the list
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Alex, your changes were made on May 16, 2021 and shared in a
>>>>>>>>>>>> way I can see the differences and trace them back to you - I will try to
>>>>>>>>>>>> add your references and see if I can incorporate your text changes as much
>>>>>>>>>>>> as I can.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If the 3 of you are ok with me migrating your changes, I can
>>>>>>>>>>>> start the work to save time. Yet I want your ok first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I know Eric and Hana were working on some sections and feel
>>>>>>>>>>>> strongly about those - specifically the stochastic modeling part - I am
>>>>>>>>>>>> open to your changes, please suggest what you feel strongly about..
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I recall Johnathan Karr wanted to make some changes, please let
>>>>>>>>>>>> me know if there is anything you feel strongly about - he had a lot of text
>>>>>>>>>>>> in the paper ..
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If I forgot anyone who had major requests, please remind me. .
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am trying to avoid a never ending revisioning cycle. So I am
>>>>>>>>>>>> asking you to trust me and centralize the work in hope I get a better
>>>>>>>>>>>> version by the end of the week..
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hopefully most of you will be ok with that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                Jacob
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: *Jacob Barhak* <jacob.barhak at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 9:34 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Shayn Peirce-Cottler via Frontiers: Manuscript
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Peirce-Cottler, Shayn (smp6p) <smp6p at virginia.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Shayn Peirce-Cottler (Via FrontiersIn) <shayn at virginia.edu
>>>>>>>>>>>> >,systemsbiology.editorial.office at frontiersin.org <
>>>>>>>>>>>> systemsbiology.editorial.office at frontiersin.org>, Vodovotz,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yoram <vodovotzy at upmc.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Shayn,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You will get a revised manuscript targeted at your journal and
>>>>>>>>>>>> get back to you with a more polished version and satisfies your requests.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It will also allow us to incorporate newer versions of the text
>>>>>>>>>>>> that answer some of your requests. We really wish to publish it fast, yet
>>>>>>>>>>>> we need more time for the approval process. So your solution seems correct
>>>>>>>>>>>> - I hope you hear back from us within a month or so.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks for the rapid responses.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                  Jacob
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>> Email: jacob.barhak at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sites.google.com/view/jacob-barhak/home
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 7:43 PM Peirce-Cottler, Shayn (smp6p) <
>>>>>>>>>>>> smp6p at virginia.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jacob,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your detailed reply. I agree that the issues can
>>>>>>>>>>>> be addressed as you have described below, and that you may need more time
>>>>>>>>>>>> to do so. Hence, I am going to officially reject this first submission to
>>>>>>>>>>>> remove any imposed deadlines, and I certainly encourage you to make the
>>>>>>>>>>>> updates listed below, and submit a new manuscript at your earliest
>>>>>>>>>>>> convenience.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if you have any questions, and thanks again
>>>>>>>>>>>> for considering this journal! I think the topic fits very nicely with the
>>>>>>>>>>>> scope of the journal, and it is certainly an important topic to our
>>>>>>>>>>>> multi-scale modeling community!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Shayn
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Shayn Peirce-Cottler, Ph.D.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Professor of Biomedical Engineering
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Harrison Distinguished Teaching Professor
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> BME Graduate Program Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> University of Virginia
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Charlottesville, VA
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *From: *Jacob Barhak <jacob.barhak at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Date: *Monday, October 18, 2021 at 1:57 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> *To: *Peirce-Cottler Shayn <shayn at virginia.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *"systemsbiology.editorial.office at frontiersin.org" <
>>>>>>>>>>>> systemsbiology.editorial.office at frontiersin.org>, "Vodovotz,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yoram" <vodovotzy at upmc.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: Shayn Peirce-Cottler via Frontiers: Manuscript
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Shayn,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for returning the response quickly. To you comments.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. This is the list of authors that agreed to submit this
>>>>>>>>>>>> manuscript for review - I collected their approvals for this version
>>>>>>>>>>>> personally.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>    1. Jonathan Karr, Icahn Institute for Data Science and
>>>>>>>>>>>>    Genomic Technology and Department of Genetics and Genomic Sciences, Icahn
>>>>>>>>>>>>    School of Medicine at Mount Sinai USA
>>>>>>>>>>>>    2. Rahuman Sheriff, The European Bioinformatics Institute
>>>>>>>>>>>>    (EMBL-EBI), UK
>>>>>>>>>>>>    3. James Osborne, School of Mathematics and Statistics,
>>>>>>>>>>>>    University of Melbourne, Australia
>>>>>>>>>>>>    4. Gilberto Gonzalez Parra, Mathematics Department, New
>>>>>>>>>>>>    Mexico Tech, USA
>>>>>>>>>>>>    5. Eric Forgoston, Department of Applied Mathematics and
>>>>>>>>>>>>    Statistics, Montclair State University, USA
>>>>>>>>>>>>    6. Ruth Bowness, Department of Mathematical Sciences,
>>>>>>>>>>>>    University of Bath, UK
>>>>>>>>>>>>    7. Yaling Liu, Department of Mechanical Engineering and
>>>>>>>>>>>>    Mechanics , Department of Bioengineering, Lehigh University, USA
>>>>>>>>>>>>    8. Robin Thompson, Mathematics Institute & The Zeeman
>>>>>>>>>>>>    Institute for Systems Biology and Infectious Disease Epidemiology Research,
>>>>>>>>>>>>    University of Warwick, UK
>>>>>>>>>>>>    9. Winston Garira - Department Of Mathematics And Applied
>>>>>>>>>>>>    Mathematics , Modelling Health and Environmental Linkages Research Group.
>>>>>>>>>>>>    University of Venda, South Africa
>>>>>>>>>>>>    10. Jacob Barhak - Barhak, Jacob, USA
>>>>>>>>>>>>    11. John Rice - Independent Retired Working Group
>>>>>>>>>>>>    Volunteer, USA
>>>>>>>>>>>>    12. Marcella Torres, School of Arts and Sciences,
>>>>>>>>>>>>    University of Richmond, USA
>>>>>>>>>>>>    13. Hana M. Dobrovolny , Department of Physics & Astronomy,
>>>>>>>>>>>>    Texas Christian University, Fort Worth, USA
>>>>>>>>>>>>    14. Tingting Tang, Department of Mathematics and Statistics
>>>>>>>>>>>>    in San Diego State University (SDSU) and SDSU Imperial Valley, USA
>>>>>>>>>>>>    15. William Waites, Centre for Mathematical Modelling of
>>>>>>>>>>>>    Infectious Diseases, London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, UK
>>>>>>>>>>>>    16. James Glazier, Biocomplexity Institute, Indiana
>>>>>>>>>>>>    University, Bloomington, USA
>>>>>>>>>>>>    17. James R. Faeder, Department of Computational and
>>>>>>>>>>>>    Systems Biology, University of Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, USA
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If there is a mismatch of authors in the submission, it can be
>>>>>>>>>>>> easily corrected - we kept the paper traceable when we constructed it so we
>>>>>>>>>>>> can point to exact texts contributed by each contributor through their
>>>>>>>>>>>> google account and versions kept in google docs with few exceptions where I
>>>>>>>>>>>> personally added text their wrote and have email conversations supporting
>>>>>>>>>>>> that .  I personally collected all those contributions in google docs when
>>>>>>>>>>>> I assembled the version you see and made sure it is agreed upon by the
>>>>>>>>>>>> contributors. It is important to note that There was one contributor that
>>>>>>>>>>>> asked for more revisions and did not approve this manuscript, yet allowed
>>>>>>>>>>>> submitting the text without association to it to avoid delays. The entire
>>>>>>>>>>>> conversation was documented publicly in our mailing list and we got consent
>>>>>>>>>>>> from this contributor to continue and use the text - You can find the
>>>>>>>>>>>> conversation  here:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.simtk.org/pipermail/vp-reproduce-subgroup/2021-March/000019.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>   -  so there are no copyright issues and the name of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> author is not included in the list above at their request. Those included
>>>>>>>>>>>> in the list have contributed and approved. If needed, we will correct the
>>>>>>>>>>>> list in the journal to match this list. Please note that we kept the entire
>>>>>>>>>>>> process as transparent as possible so there will be no issues. If there are
>>>>>>>>>>>> any concerns of authorship, I will be happy to dig into the history and
>>>>>>>>>>>> pull out details.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. The reason the manuscript was submitted in this form is to
>>>>>>>>>>>> get confirmation on initial fit and to get some initial feedback. We were
>>>>>>>>>>>> interested in fast review to get the information quickly out - Also note
>>>>>>>>>>>> that we did not intend this to be a final version - we already have some
>>>>>>>>>>>> modifications in the work that we would like to introduce where more people
>>>>>>>>>>>> contributed , yet we have not reached agreement on those so we cannot
>>>>>>>>>>>> formally publish them - however, we did reach agreement on submitting this
>>>>>>>>>>>> version for review so the editor can focus us on what is important to
>>>>>>>>>>>> change to get published with a 3rd Party - enough of us agreed in a vote
>>>>>>>>>>>> that your Journal seems is a suitable 3rd party and hence the submission.
>>>>>>>>>>>> We will be happy to spend the time to convert the manuscript to the desired
>>>>>>>>>>>> format if you find the content suitable for the journal. So far your
>>>>>>>>>>>> requests are reasonable and I will convey them to the group through our
>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Please note that after the list of authors there is a
>>>>>>>>>>>> disclaimer : "The opinion of the contributors do not reflect
>>>>>>>>>>>> the opinions of the entire working group". Initially this
>>>>>>>>>>>> paper started as an activity requested by the working group leads. However,
>>>>>>>>>>>> by no means it represents all opinions. The introduction in this version of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the paper captures some of this history of how the manuscript was created
>>>>>>>>>>>> and modified. However, we have other versions of the manuscript in work
>>>>>>>>>>>> where this history is deleted - If you prefer, we can easily create a
>>>>>>>>>>>> version that detaches from the working group to eliminate all concerns -
>>>>>>>>>>>> this is a relatively easy fix. However, whatever fix we do, we will have to
>>>>>>>>>>>> approve with all contributors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4  The revisions can be done in reasonable time. However, the
>>>>>>>>>>>> process of collecting approval for all contributors to legally approve the
>>>>>>>>>>>> revised manuscript will take more than 14 days. All contributors must
>>>>>>>>>>>> approve a manuscript for publication. With this number of authors we will
>>>>>>>>>>>> probably not make it in the time you mentioned - only the approval process
>>>>>>>>>>>> for collecting all approvals took alone about 3 weeks to approve this
>>>>>>>>>>>> version you see.  Hopefully you will understand this and extend this time
>>>>>>>>>>>> period beyond 14 days.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In summary:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Making the fixes you asked for towards publication is easy -
>>>>>>>>>>>> yet getting the approval from so many people may take us more time than
>>>>>>>>>>>> what you provide. If it is possible to get an extension, it will be
>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I will add this conversation to our mailing list so we can
>>>>>>>>>>>> start the process of revising the manuscript.  However, if after this email
>>>>>>>>>>>> you have more issues with this paper, Please advise on the best course of
>>>>>>>>>>>> action you see fit so we can adjust accordingly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hopefully we can address your concerns in time to publish the
>>>>>>>>>>>> manuscript in a timely manner.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                  Jacob
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacob Barhak Ph.D.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sole Proprietor, Software Developer, and Computational Disease
>>>>>>>>>>>> Modeler
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacob Barhak Analytics
>>>>>>>>>>>> 701 Brazos St
>>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 548
>>>>>>>>>>>> Austin TX, 78701
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Email: jacob.barhak at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sites.google.com/view/jacob-barhak/home
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 9:56 AM Shayn Peirce-Cottler (Via
>>>>>>>>>>>> FrontiersIn) <noreply at frontiersin.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Jacob,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your manuscript submission. I cannot send it out
>>>>>>>>>>>> for review in its current form because I have a few concerns, but if you
>>>>>>>>>>>> can address the following issues, I will certainly reconsider a revised
>>>>>>>>>>>> manuscript if the following are adequately addressed:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. The author list that is on the first page differs from the
>>>>>>>>>>>> author list that was provided at the time of submission.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. The manuscript needs to be submitted using the official
>>>>>>>>>>>> Frontiers template.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. The manuscript states that it represents the views of a
>>>>>>>>>>>> number of special interest and working groups, and the authors should
>>>>>>>>>>>> provide assurances that they have the authority and approval to speak on
>>>>>>>>>>>> behalf of the working groups that are listed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. There are places throughout the manuscript, and most
>>>>>>>>>>>> frequently in the second half, where information is provided as bulleted
>>>>>>>>>>>> talking points without context. Those sections should be revised into
>>>>>>>>>>>> paragraphs of text or summarized in a table (or figure).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you wish to submit a revised manuscript, the journal
>>>>>>>>>>>> provides a 14-day time window for you to do so. Please let me know if you
>>>>>>>>>>>> have any questions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Shayn
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Manuscript title: Model Integration in Computational Biology:
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Role of Reproducibility, Credibility and Utility
>>>>>>>>>>>> Manuscript ID: 793932
>>>>>>>>>>>> Authors: Marcella Torres, Jacob Barhak, Ruth Bowness, Hana
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maria Dobrovolny, James Faeder, Eric Forgoston, Winston Garira, Yaling Liu,
>>>>>>>>>>>> James Osborne, Gilberto Gonzalez Parra, John Rice, Rahuman Sheriff,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tingting Tang, Robin Thompson, William Waites
>>>>>>>>>>>> Date submitted: 12 Oct 2021
>>>>>>>>>>>> Edited by: Shayn Peirce-Cottler
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Research Topic: Insights in Systems Biology: Multiscale
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mechanistic Modeling 2021
>>>>>>>>>>>> Review forum direct access link:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://review.frontiersin.org/review/793932/0/0
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