[Vp-integration-subgroup] Reminder to vote on white paper Venue - CONTIBUTORS - Please ACT by 4/16

Mon Apr 12 15:03:23 PDT 2021

Hi Jonathan,

If you noticed, I already quoted your opinion in a previous email - you may
be right that a smaller version may be helpful - yet now we all
approved this version and trying to make an impact by publishing it - I am
not against having another version later on -  yet for now please choose
one and only on of the options you suggested for the current version. You
approved this version before so I assumed I can move forward. If I am wrong
or misrepresenting you, please stop me now.

Look we are 17 people with different opinions - the process I suggested is
a reasonable way to ensure consensus that will legally hold - and
publication through a third party where we release copyright is legally
binding, so this consensus process is important.  I will have to sign the
forms in your name and need to trace back proof that I am not misusing your
name. So please help me push this forward if you support this effort and
please stick to my instructions and vote only for one venue.

And recall, that we will have revisions after review, so this is not the
end of the process and will have to approve changes later on again, yet I
need your support to move forward. Hopefully you can vote for only one for
this version.

You can choose to abstain and leave the decision to the rest of the group,
yet if you have any strong reservations that would stop the process or
disallow using your name, please state those those publicly.

My assumption is that publishing this fast and making an impact quickly
outweighs delay for further discussions since the benefit of making the
corpus of knowledge composed available to the public with such a large a
diverse group. Nothing is perfect the such a large group, yet this is good
enough and the sooner we get this out the door the better.

               Jacob

On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 4:44 PM Jonathan Karr <jonrkarr at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think many of these journals would likely require condensing the
> manuscript to a more succinct narrative. A second benefit would be that
> more people would likely read a shorter paper. This could be a brief
> narrative accompanied by a box with a list of specific recommendations. The
> longer version could still be posted as supplementary material or to a
> preprint server.
>
> With just minor revisions, maybe one of these could work:
>
>    - Annual Review of Biomedical Engineering
>    - Briefings in Bioinformatics
>    - Nature Communications
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 11:28 AM Jacob Barhak <jacob.barhak at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Greetings White paper Contributors,
>>
>> This is your chance to decide on the venue. If you name is on this list,
>> please take a few minutes anv vote for the venue:
>> Jonathan Karr
>> Rahuman Sheriff
>> James Osborne
>> Gilberto Gonzalez Parra
>> Eric Forgoston
>> Ruth Bowness
>> Yaling Liu
>> Robin Thompson
>> Winston Garira
>> Marcella Torres
>> Hana M. Dobrovolny
>> Tingting Tang
>> William Waites
>> James Glazier
>> James R. Faeder
>>
>> Currently one vote was cast and unless there will be more votes, the
>> venue voted for will be chosen. So if you have a strong preference, this is
>> your chance to influence the publication venue.
>>
>> You will find eligible venues below as well as additional details.
>>
>> I look forward to your votes.
>>
>>                Jacob
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 7:04 PM John Rice <john.rice at noboxes.org> wrote:
>>
>>> No objection to any but will VOTE CUREUS.
>>>
>>> My understanding it was created to provide a peer reviewed open source
>>> indexed journal that could accommodate new forms of papers and new relevant
>>> topical areas.  Good timing for them lifting the limit on references, so
>>> assume this paper could be submitted in current form subject only to
>>> reviewers’ response.
>>>
>>> Don’t know that it has a model credibility related topic section yet.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Typed with two thumbs on my iPhone.  (757) 318-0671
>>>
>>> “Upon this gifted age, in its dark hour,
>>> Rains from the sky a meteoric shower
>>> Of facts . . . they lie unquestioned, uncombined.
>>> Wisdom enough to leech us of our ill
>>> Is daily spun; but there exists no loom
>>> To weave it into fabric.”
>>>
>>> –Edna St. Vincent Millay,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 8, 2021, at 01:23, Jacob Barhak <jacob.barhak at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Greeting White paper contributors,
>>>
>>> The old Thread that contained discussions towards creations and approval
>>> of the white paper have become too long, so I started a new maling thread.
>>>
>>> You can find the old discussion thread here:
>>>
>>> https://lists.simtk.org/pipermail/vp-reproduce-subgroup/2021-April/000052.html
>>>
>>> To summarize, we have reached a point where 17 authors approved the
>>> following version for submission, pending some minor changes like
>>> spelling and grammar correction.
>>>
>>> To avoid any confusion - here is the paper version we approved is here:
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IMEgmdNkx-EsnOjGuegpenSIMmKIkK00Lc8Gred3QxM/edit?usp=sharing
>>>
>>> At this point we need to select a venue to submit the paper to. Here is
>>> a short list I collected after incorporating all the suggestions and
>>> removed all venues that had any objections. To your convenience I added
>>> additional notes form personal knowledge - I did not look at issues such as
>>> publication fees for open access - different venues may have different
>>> rules and may require some additional investment, so please look at the
>>> venue you are choosing and learn the limitations/benefits before you vote:
>>>
>>> Here is the short list:
>>>
>>>    1. Cureus - will require cutting out some references due to
>>>    limitation
>>>    2. Nature - if you vote for this venue please specify flavour such
>>>    as Nature Scientific Reports
>>>    3. Science
>>>    4. Briefings in Bioinformatics
>>>    5. Trends in Biotechnology - requires distilling the paper
>>>    6. Journal of The Royal Society Interface
>>>    7. Annual Review of Public Health
>>>    8. BMJ
>>>    9. Annual Review of Biomedical Engineering
>>>    10. F1000research - if you vote for this this venue please
>>>    specify Gateway / Collection
>>>    11. iScience
>>>    12. bulletin of mathematical biology
>>>    13. Bioinformatics.
>>>
>>>
>>> I ask that each contributor who has a preference among those Journals
>>> reply to all to this message and pick one venue. Please pick only one
>>> considering all aspects of the venue. You are welcome to include your
>>> reasoning, yet vote towards only one venue.  You are welcome to change your
>>> mind - yet only your last vote will count.
>>>
>>> In case of a tie in the number of votes, the venue that got the first
>>> counted vote will be chosen.
>>>
>>> After we select, I will put the work to format the submission towards
>>> that venue and include all necessary submission matters. In case of fees,
>>> those who voted for the venue will be responsible for covering publication
>>> fees.
>>>
>>> At this point I assume no one has any objections to any venues and we
>>> are all ok with submitting this version - so we are just prioritizing
>>> according to the majority of wishes while keeping the process transparent
>>> and giving some incentive to early bird vote.
>>>
>>> If any of my assumptions are not correct, please correct me now!
>>>
>>> This is the best way I think we can create consensus in such a large
>>> group - and consensus is legally necessary for publication.
>>>
>>> I ask that we limit the voting time to approximately one week. So votes
>>> should be cast by 1am April 16th CDT.
>>>
>>> I will send another reminder during this week, yet I assume one week is
>>> sufficient to make a simple choice of prefered venue and those not voting
>>> elect to abstain from choosing and prefer the majority choice.
>>>
>>> I look forward to your votes.
>>>
>>>             Jacob
>>>
>>>
>>>
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